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313 | Investing Since 1967: How This Legend Outperformed The Marketplace By A Whopping 7.1%! – Chat with Jock Bing

Want to hear a property masterclass from one of the best of the best in the industry?! And what if we told you this guest has not only been investing since 1967… but also OUTPERFORMED the marketplace by a whopping 7.1% during this time?

That’s right… today’s guest is one of the LEGENDS in property investing – one of the first EVER Buyers Agents in the country, in fact – and all of the properties he’s purchased for his clients have been scrutinised over a 47-Year Review… and their growth performance EXCEEDED the entire marketplace!

So how did he do it?! And, crucially, where and what properties did he buy to get such a phenomenal return on investment?!

Introducing Jock Bing, Executive Director and CEO of Portfolio Property Management Services – a property investment, buyers advocacy and management firm that Jock founded back in 1967!! Yes, he is one of the trailblazers who invested in property WAAY before it was ever a “thing”… and guided others to do the same; getting them a ripper of a return in the process!

With over fifty years of in-the-trenches experiences, Jock has an enormous amount of wisdom to share… and we feel very fortunate to speak with someone who doesn’t just have longevity in the game, but is one the great pioneers and thought leaders in the property investment industry!

Fun Fact: Jock has actually been one of Ben’s personal mentors throughout his own investment journey… and we’ve been trying to convince Jock to come on to The Couch for some time 🤣… ‘cos the insights this man has is Nothing But Pure Gold.

Boy, oh boy, oh boy… strap yourselves in for a Property Investment Masterclass, folks… you’re about to have your mind blown!

Also – if you wanted to get more information on our Start & Build course, you can get the Limited-Time Discount on Start & Build here. (Discount ends on 22/11/20)

 

Stuff Mentioned…

 

Here’s What We Cover…

  • Who is Jock Bing?!
  • What was the property market like back in 1967?
  • How did he come up of the idea of investing in property?
  • Who lent money to property investors in the beginning?
  • How much were properties back then?
  • How did he get people to invest in property when it wasn’t really “a thing” yet?
  • What did this process look like?
  • Why did he NOT go for the new properties?
  • What suburbs were they buying in and why?!
  • The Why and How of attracting university students
  • What does Jock see happening to the future of the property marketv?
  • What does “investing in an apartment” really mean?
  • Why did Jock say NO to Spruikers?
  • The Sydney and Melbourne Market shift…
  • The rationale behind investing in existing properties…
  • What was the appeal of artisan/workers cottages?
  • How do you attract a higher quality tenant in a suburb that’s in the process of gentrification?
  • The FOUR Things You Need To Consider In An Investment Property
  • When did it pivot from 60 – 66% deposits with solicitors to 80% funding with banks and then using existing equity to get 105%?
  • How did the introduction Capital Gains Tax affect property investors?
  • Why did he take the long term approach to property investing?
  • How many properties was he purchasing for each client?
  • What would Jock do differently? Would he do anything differently?
  • The implications of investing in property on main roads and compromised areas…
  • … Did someone say “NSW reform to Stamp Duty”?!

 

 

 

Bonusisode with Nerida | A Permanent Shift To Regional Locations?!

It’s time for… Australia’s Property Market Update with Nerida Conisbee, Chief Economist at realestate.com.au

And here’s the question on our minds…

👉 “Will the shift to Regional Locations continue BEYOND the pandemic?!”👈

Honestly… Will we see the “Escape From The City” trend move into a PERMANENT thing??

But that’s not all we cover…

💥 The Presidential Election & Its Impact on The Australian Property Market
💥 The Permanent Sea Change?! – What It Means For Property & People Who Invest In It
💥 What’s The Preference Shift In Demand Actually Fuelled By?
💥 Regional Areas That Are Soaring In Value
💥 The Cash Rate Record-Low DROP – What’s In Store Next?
💥 What’s Happening In The Mining Sector?
💥 Will We EVER Go Back To Fulltime Office Work??
💥 Easing Of Lending Restrictions – What it Means For Borrowers
💥 Property Market Update
💥 Will There Be A Cashless Society Moving Forward?
💥 The Future of Australia’s Economy…

👀📺 Watch now to get the FULL Property Market Update and see what’s coming for Regional Properties…

 

312 | Don’t Push Your X-ing Luck: Investing In Properties Close To Train Lines & Tips For Divorcees

Investing close to train lines. Buying Grandma’s house. ‘Til divorce do us part.

And then this… Should You Buy “The Worst House In The Worst Street”… IF It’s In The BEST Suburb?!

In this Q&A episode we’re giving you the answers to the property investment questions that keep you up at night. (Quite literally. One listener was pondering LMI at 3am!)

We’ve got everything from how to invest in property as a divorcee, using loan redraws, whether or not you should purchase your grandparents’ property for investment purposes, ways to release equity, tips if you’ve only got fifteen years of working life left, what impact train lines have on the value of property… the works!

Suss out the exact questions we answer below.

Otherwise hit play and learn how NOT to push your “CROSS”-ing luck! 😉

 

Question About Buying Grandparents House From Lucy

Hi Bryce and Ben, Long time listener of the show. Wanted to reach out to get your opinion and views on a couple of things related to investing in my grandparents’ home in Brisbane and whether or not it is a good idea to:

  1. a) buy your grandparents house as an investment property and
  2. b) investing in Brisbane (suburb, Stafford).

My grandfather built the house 60 years ago. He recently passed and my grandmother is moving to a retirement home. I have an opportunity to buy this property and have always wanted to. I know you shouldn’t invest for emotional purposes, but it’s not just that. This property is right by the brook, at the end of a cul-de-sac and is inner city Brisbane (less than 10km from the city). I’m from New Zealand and have seen the suburb and city change so much over my 30 years of visiting them there. The house is on a large piece of land. I think over the next few years the prices are only going to continue to rise and desirability in that area is only growing so I see great capital growth potential. The house is an odd configuration and built in the 60s. It really needs to go at some point sadly, and if sold, I know a developer will bulldoze and rebuilt 3 townhouses on there as they are doing in the surrounding area. My current plan would be to rent it out as is for a few years, and eventually replace it with a nice family home to have as a rental to a family. The house is estimated to be around $660k from research and houses on that street are getting up to $1m in some cases. I have one investment property in New Zealand that has been a great asset to build equity in. I see my grandparents’ house as a low yield, high capital gains opportunity to buy, hold, renovate. Would love to hear your thoughts Thanks, Lucy.

 

Question About Tips For Divorcees From Cathie

I have recently separated from a 25y marriage and about to begin the property settlement process. I’m hoping to keep the family home and then begin my property portfolio. Where should my first stop be to make sure I set my finance and PPOR correctly? What tips or suggestions would you have for someone who may have 15 years of working life until retirement? I have just started your Money S. M. A. R. T.S and Start and Build program and am working my way through your podcasts(loving then ALL!) I would like to have my PPOR paid off and generate enough passive income of about $1000/W. I want to get this right from the beginning. This is a new stage in my life and I want to be able to feel comfortable in my financial choices and also be able to provide and be a role model to my children. Thanks Guys!

 

Question About Investing In Properties Close to Train Lines from Yannick

Hey guys, 2 questions:

  1. Just wondering, how does a train line across the road or backing onto the backyard affect the property value?
  2. Also we’ve all heard the saying, worst house in the best street, does this hold true for the worst house in the worst street of the best suburb?

I’m looking in Ballarat so being a regional area I’m not sure if all these factors are the same as in Melbourne. Thanks very much in advance!

 

Question about Using Funds in Redraw from Andrew

Hello, My wife and I have owed our first home for 2 yrs. Currently we have a redraw on our mortgage and have paid off an extra $100,000 (available for redraw) after a bit of research and listing to your tips, I am in the process of organising an offset account instead. Now, how can I use the current available funds in our redraw? We want to buy our second home in the next 6 months. This 2nd home will become our primary residence and we will start to rent out the first house. Can I simply move the available cash over to the offset once set up and then use it later on to purchase the second house?

 

Question about  Why Does LMI Even Exist from Mark

If LMI is an insurance that protects the bank in the event you can’t pay, why would the lender need to charge it if the buyer/investor can prove they have income protection and could always pay their mortgage? Just a thought I had at 3am this morning. Lol.

Also, can you use equity in your PPOR to purchase an investment without actually withdrawing it? A bit similar to a parent being a guarantor. Thanks guys keep up the good work.

 

306 | The Game of Loans: How To Find & Finance An Investment Property

How do property investors Find and Finance their investment properties?

Let’s face it: Asset Selection (aka finding the property) and Borrowing Power (aka financing the property) are two of our Four Pillars of Mastery for a reason… they’re crucial!

So with this in mind, how do property investors make sure they get these two things right?

Well, that’s where today’s episode comes in. We’re unpacking heaps of listener questions on these two topics so you get the insider’s guide into what to buy and how to set up your loan structure and strategy correctly!

We’ve dubbed it “The Game of Loans” and we think there’s quite a few takeaways in here, and even a few bits of gold we’ve never discussed before…

Listen now so you can learn how to find and finance your assets!

 

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The Questions

Question about “Investing in Victoria During COVID-19” from Trav:
Hi, gents, just a quick one. I haven’t yet mustered up the courage to do any investment in property. I’m looking to do my first one, hopefully within the next six months. And just want to get your views on the current environment here in Victoria. And if you think it’s a good time to invest in Victoria, the area that I’m looking at is Chelsea, down by the beach there, close to train line three bedroom, townhouse, one bathroom, own title, nobody corporate in a secure, parking area. I tick all those boxes that you guys talk about. I have low debt, zero debt effectively. I own my own property. I’m in a secure government style job around the 120K Mark and regular high-rises, and I’m quite a good money manager, yet to do the last little part of my structure. And that is obviously getting in touch with a good savvy mortgage broker rather who’s savvy around investments. So I just, your thoughts on that and let me know, keep up the good work and I hope to hear from you, sir. Bye.

 

Question about “Closer In And Smaller or Further Out And Bigger” from Violet:
Hi, Bryce and Ben we’ve been conditionally approved for our first home to the value of $750,000. We live in the North Eastern suburbs of Melbourne way. Wondering whether we should buy a two bedroom property with the potential to add an extra bedroom, which definitely needs a little bit of work, but we can get in for, you know, under $600,000 we believe, or if we should max out budget right up to the $750,000 and get a house that needs very little work and already has three bedrooms, which would be the best option here?

 

Question From Tom:
Hi Bryce and Ben, I’d just like to ask a question regarding timing on principal and interest payments on an investment property. We currently have four investment properties, which are all interest only payments. We still plan to purchase another one or two properties in the future. We’ve recently just refinanced our investment properties to take that to maximum borrowing. And we drew the equity to purchase our primary place of residence. That primary place of residence has an offset account. The old wages and our rental income goes into. I’d just like to know at what time do the investment properties turn from interest only to principal and interest repayments? Thank you.

 

Question From Shashank:
Hi Ben and Bryce, my name is Shashank Pande, and I’m based in Adelaide. I’ve been a regular listener of your podcast and would like to thank you for the amazing knowledge share and experience share that you do for the wider community. My question relates to auctions and my question is about the feasibility of an auction, from a seller’s perspective, in getting the best price for the seller, because it’s predicated on the reserve price for the seller, which is the lowest price that the seller would sell the property for and not on finding the highest bidder for the property. So I just wanted to get your views on whether an auction is the best for the seller to sell a house. Thanks, Bye.

 

305 | Chalk & Cheese: The Difference Between The Art & Science of Investing

We bang on about the “Art” and the “Science” of property investing a fair bit. But have you ever stopped to wonder what this actually means? Like, what’s the difference between “Art” and “Science” anyway? And how does this apply to picking an investment-grade asset?

Well, step right up folks, ‘cos we’re about to unpack all this in today’s episode!

‘Cos first things first… Art and Science are like “Chalk & Cheese”… completely different things!

So, when you’re looking at them through the lens of a property investor, you have to be mindful to the subtleties of each… and you need to know firsthand how they both complement each other and, most importantly, how they come together to ensure your overall success.

We can assure you… you can’t have one without the other. And just like Yin and Yang, there’s a balance you need to strike to get the art and science of asset selection right!

Tune in to today’s Q&A to get the difference between the art and science of investing… and the answers to a whole heap of listener questions about where and what to buy.

 

 

Question about How To Work Out If You Have A Good Asset Or Not from Alex Herbert

Hey guys, uh, just a quick, thank you for your podcast. I’ve only discovered it four months ago and you know, it’s been really good listening through everything and it’s, yeah, it’s definitely has a bit of a culture feel to it and I really enjoy it. So, thanks. Thanks for the effort you guys put into that. Um, quick background on me, I’m 31 years old. I have six properties. Uh, one is a PPR, which I live in and then there are others, our investments at this stage. Um, so basically my sort of worry, or the question I would like to know a bit more information on, is, um, I put all my eggs in one basket using a property advisor and walked through all the process and building this portfolio. Um, and all of the things you guys talk about, he’s implemented, uh, in my portfolio as well. So there’s, there’s a lot of things there that I have in place that you guys do say that’s, you know, the, the golden rules. Um, the biggest thing though, that does sort of get the, the alarm bells ringing a little bit, or makes me want to find out a bit more if I’ve made the right moves is I do have a few of them, which are new developments, new houses where had the land and are built on the land. Um, and I just want to know once you do have some assets in place, how do you know that they are the good assets to hold or whether you’re wasting opportunity by holding onto them? 

 

Question about Capital Growth Considerations from Kieran

Hi, Bryce. And Ben, you guys made a comment the other week in one of your podcasts that medium to high density apartment investors investor stock type assets that are likely to be most affected, by COVID over the next 12 to 24 months as investors get scared and that the mantra is up for those types of assets. My wife and I currently looking at a two bedroom for the units with a little courtyard and garage, but I guess we’re wondering whether the performance or the growth of those is less in the short term and is likely to be dampened perhaps somewhat of prices of apartments do drop or at least stunted in their growth. Is that likely to flow over into the next closest asset class being most of those two-bedroom units? Would we be better off potentially stretching a little bit further to get into at least a three-bedroom Villa unit, but perhaps a little bit more living space, a little bit more land and courtyard? Is that likely to be perhaps less impacted in its growth?

 

Question about Strategies For Buying from Soph

Hi, Bryce. Hi, Ben. Love the podcast. Thanks very much for your time. Um, I’m just wondering if you can give a bit of an overview of some of the strategies of buying when you sort of mentioned some of the strategies here and there, but I was wondering if there was a list or something that we can sort of, um, go through and look at those. Thanks very much.

 

Question about Tips To Go From One Investment To Two from Daksha

Hi, I’m Bryce and Ben. Looking for some property investment advice, I already have my primary principal home and also have one investment property. I don’t know where to go from here onwards. Um, I do have equity on my principal home and my investment property. Uh, I mortgage insurance, so it’s independent. Um, yep. Looking forward to, to getting some advice on how to go for the second investment or how can I do my financial planning so that I’m ready? Um, thank you.

 

Question about Buying As An Owner-Occupier from Frez

Hi Bryce and Ben. My name is Frez. I’m asking this question. I am from Melbourne and I’m hopefully a soon to be first home buyer. Um, my question to you guys was would I be crazy to purchase a home as an owner-occupier, so a home that I’m going to be living in when the address has left and to the right of me, I filled with two or three units. The address in front of me is a, you know, a compound with four townhouses. And it’s pretty much the same story up and down the street or up and down any street within that suburb. So the suburb I’m talking about is an area called Laverton in the Western suburbs of Melbourne, traditionally an industrial area, but I think recently with Williamstown landing popping up, Truganina popping up in tiny, further down the road was all these house and land packages.  It seems elaborate and has been all the more, uh, appealing, um, purely because it’s established homes, much bigger blocks, and they’ve actually got public transportation, which these other areas like two train stations, closer access to the freeway and an actual bus network, but driving through a few weeks ago prior to the restrictions I noticed everybody was tearing down these houses and the amount of construction for unit after unit townhouse after townhouse. Should I avoid buying in this area as an owner occupier? Um, yeah, I just wanted to know what your thoughts on it were. Thank you for the podcast. Thank you for the content. You guys have been an absolute godsend since I discovered you considering the stage I’m at right now. Thanks for everything.

 

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