Episode 294 | The Secret To Triple Returns: How This Socceroos Star Changed The Projection of His Entire Future – Chat with Chris Ikonomidis

* yes, this is one of Ben’s favourite episodes EVER! *  

Have you ever been around someone who you “just know” is going to be successful? Like, really, really successful?! They talk differently. They think differently. It’s like you can see that the “thing” driving them is coming straight from the core who they are, or something… and, almost always, they aren’t afraid of going against the grain, doing things differently, right?!

Well, it can be argued (and rightfully so!) that today’s guest is already REALLY successful, especially from a career point of view…  BUT what makes this guest so impressive is something else… there’s WAY more to them that made us go, “Wow!” multiple times during this interview, actually!

Here’s the deal…

Today we are interviewing 25-year old Australian professional football player (or “soccer” player for some 😉) who plays attacking midfielder or winger for the Socceroos and Perth Glory… Chris Ikonomidis!!

Yes, that means he’s playing “The World Game” at an ELITE level… but it also means that his teammates are often cruising around in their new Lamborghinis and diamond Rolex’s when they’re not on the football pitch…

But Chris?! Nope. Chris is playing an EVEN BIGGER game. See, he’s resisting the lavish lifestyle now ‘cos he’s fully aware that his sporting career won’t last forever.

And that’s where today’s epic episode comes in…. we’re doing a LIVE Critique of Chris’s Property Plan… that is… what properties he’s invested in, what he’s thinking of  investing in (and if it’s a good idea or not) and how he’s managed to switch his mindset to stay focused on the long-term play!

This episode’s packed with wisdom ALL of us (yes, that includes us too!) can leverage from and money tips we can apply in our own lives.

Highly recommend this one, folks! Tune in now & let us know what you think!


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Episode 288 | How He Survived Multiple Recessions & Why He Still Believes in Property, Even During a Pandemic – Chat with Peter Koulizos, Chair of PIPA

Did you know that “Property Professor” Peter Koulizos INVESTED during multiple Australian recessions? And now, in the wake of COVID-19 he is STILL adamant that property is a safe bet!

So, what can we learn from one of Australia’s leading property experts who’s actually lived through The 70’s Recession, The 80’s Recession, The 90’s Recession and The GFC?? What can we take away from someone who invested in almost all of them?!

Today, we’re welcoming back Peter K, no stranger to The Couch! As well as being none other than the Property Professor as the Program Director of the Master of Property at The University of Adelaide, he is also the Chair of Property Investment Professionals of Australia (PIPA) and widely regarded for his insights into the Australian property market; including everything from gentrification to property development!

And aside from hearing how on earth he survived all of those economic upheavals, we’re ticking off these three key points (more on what’s covered in this ep further down)…

  1. Pete’s take on COVID-19 and how it compares to Australia’s Recessions and The GFC
  2. Peter Top 5 Things he’d say to his 20 something self BEFORE buying his first property (we’re excited for this one!!!)
  3. The new PIPA/PICA survey results 😊

With #3, Peter and Ben are also unpacking the brand-new results from the recent PICA & PIPA Sentiment Survey that just went out… so we can all see how current and aspiring property investors are feeling about the property market since COVID-19 entered our lives. And the results are kinda surprising!


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What we Cover in Today’s Episode…

  • How does the COVID-19 property market stack up to during previous Australian Recessions + The GFC?
  • How does the typical “Australian Aspiration” differ from other counties? And why is this critical in shaping the future of our property market?
  • Property Transactions vs Property Prices: What’s Happening Now?
  • Safe strategies to increase immigration and help Australia’s economy
  • What property sector will be most affected by COVID-19?
  • What is the Government proposing in order to stimulate the property market?
  • Which commercial properties are likely to survive the pandemic?
  • How many new dwellings should we be building per year? (minimum)
  • What 5 things would Peter’s tell his 20-something self BEFORE buying his first property? (check out our tips here)
  • Why Your First Home Shouldn’t Be Your Dream Home!
  • How old was Peter when he moved into his forever home?
  • How To Use Someone Else’s Hindsight To Make Better Investment Decisions
  • How can you help your kids get on the ladder while still investing yourself?
  • How many Australian property investors still think it’s a good time to invest?
  • How many investors are currently affected by financial hardship based on the PICA & PIPA sentiment survey??






Episode 286 | Best Case & Worst Case For Property, PLUS what’s making Property News?

You’ve probably heard Commbank’s “warning” that property prices could drop by “a third” as a result of the unemployment levels due to COVID-19…

You’ve probably ONLY seen this scary number come out of their March Quarter 2020 Trading Update, though right?

Probably because it’s the ONLY number being reported in the headlines!!!

But what’s really interesting is there’s a whole lot of OTHER scenarios that the Commonwealth Bank of Australia also modeled… and… guess what? Yep, you’re only getting the clickbait answer!

So, in today’s Q&A, we’re going to let you in The Best & The Worst-Case scenarios, and what Commbank actually believes is most likely to happen with property prices, according todata.

After that, we’re going through a fair few questions that have also come in over the last two weeks!

Plus, Ben’s also introduced a BRAND-NEW SEGMENT — “What’s Making Property News” — and you can just imagine how excited he is, right?!


We tick off quite a few boxes in this episode folks, so definitely tune in if you’re keen to hear what we can likely expect between now and 2022, and also get some current property, finance, money management and COVID-19answers!


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The Questions

Question about withdrawing superannuation from Sabrina
Good evening. I really admire you both. I listen to your podcasts. I might don’t get chance to listen to every single one, but I love you guys and try to listen whenever I can. I need your advice please.

My situation is, I have some buffer savings in my offset account around $25,000 and me and my husband both have jobs in this situation. But I am working less hours because I am not sending my son to childcare. The monthly earnings will keep us going but very tight and I don’t know when I can send my son to childcare again.

So, my question is am I eligible to withdraw $10,000 superannuation? Because my hours has been reduced significantly (my company is giving me enough hours but I have elected not to work like before because of my son) so can I apply for super and what are the pros and cons if I withdraw super? I am just scared if I will run out of money and I didn’t apply for it.


Questions about cross-colleterialisation and accessing equity from Danielle
Hi Bryce, I have just started reading your book I bought last year “The Armchair Guide to Property Investing”. I find it quite interesting and a few similar matters are bought up like in the barefoot investor. I have read a few times not to have your loans with one bank so my first question is how do you use your equity you have with that bank to purchase another investment and get the loan with another bank? I can’t seem to find much information about it and do not understand it, but my partner has tried to do it and his broker seemed to think it was too hard, but reading it can be done? We have 6 properties between us. I have 2 and Brendon, my partner, has 4. We want to invest more — my aim was a property every two years until we reach the time, we want a new house for ourselves to live in; in the country or a shack.

My second question: I have read a lot about don’t cross-collaterise your loans. I felt like I did this and don’t see how you don’t do it if you’re using your property as security and the equity in it? Then yesterday I read an article, and it says if you have standalone loans for each property that isn’t cross collaterised — it’s only when you have all your properties and loans as one? Is this correct?

My third question is: my partner is about to pay off his first house and own it; the one we currently reside in. He wants to know, if he pays it off, does he get the deed to his house or not because he has used it as security with his other three investments?


Question about the planning process from Mazen
I’m up to Ep 120 of The Property Couch podcast and just read chapter 1 of your book. You have turned my mindset about property upside down, in a positive way! One thing I need to get my head around before moving on to chapter 2 is to actually try work out a monetary value of my future goals so that I can put a plan together to achieve them in the timeframe. I’m a bit unsure about where to start and what to consider when calculating how much money I will need (e.g. questions running through my mind… I want to travel “this” often and so I need “this” much money, I want to live close to the beach by “this” age so how much would I need for “this”, etc) Am I overthinking it? Thanks and look forward to hearing from you!


Question about LMI vs Renting from Hayley Robinson
What do you think is better? Paying LMI or rent when getting ready for buying a first home?


Question about Procrastination and Choosing the “right” debit/credit cars from Aaron
I’ve been trying to get all our debts/credit cards sorted before getting property investment advice, and feel like I’m just procrastinating now…


Question about Inflation and Passive Income Target from Grant
How much in today’s money do you need in assets to get $2k passive income?


And of course..

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Episode 285 | “Catching a Falling Knife” Is investing in Commercial Real Estate a good idea right now? – Chat with Scott O’Neill

Is the “home office” the future office? Coronavirus has changed the face of many businesses – entire companies are now working from home, retail shops have switched to online selling and others, like cafés and restaurants, have simply “shut up shop”, either temporarily as they wait for the storm to pass, or permanently.

So it begs the question… is investing in COMMERCIAL property still a good idea?

Well, returning to the Couch is Scott O’Neill, Founder and Director of Rethink Investing, a buyers agency that specialises in both commercial and residential real estate! Yep, we first heard from him back on Episode 230 | From Residential to Commercial Investing: How this guy quit his Day Job at 28 … and  today we’re in for a very special treat as Scott walks us through the key themes unfolding in the office, retail and industrial space… PLUS, he gives us his expert opinion on the “new normal” in commercial real estate, so our folks interested in investing in commercial property know what to aim for, what to avoid and how to find the right commercial properties!

Oh, and Scott even manages to sprinkle in a few nuggets of gold on residential real estate too!


This is a fascinating and knowledge-backed episode that really sinks in a few key messages – and not just for our commercial property investors, but also for the rest of us who simply want to navigate this coronavirus and learn investing best-practices!


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Episode 284 | Kyal & Kara from The Block – How To Renovate, Raise Kids, Run A Business & Not Lose Your Mind in the Process

Kyal & Kara” Demmrich became household names after the humble chippy & physio joined The Block back in early 2014 for their Fan Vs Favs series. And when that popular reality program was over, the courageous renovation-lovers decided to do it ALL again – this time on Reno Rumble in April 2015!

And now, with their own successful Design & Construction business, Diverse Design & Build, and tackling their own Renovation Series, Kyal and Kara are a near-perfect example of what it’s like to renovate, raise kids, run a business and not lose your mind in the process!

In fact folks, we’ve ‘gotta hand it to them – this couple is remarkably positive, healthy and staying ahead of the game!!

And guess what’s even more surprising? We actually interviewed them during “The Week They Never Want to Repeat!!”

So. What’s their secret?

And what Renovation Tips could the rest of us benefit from?! (Maybe BEFORE you “do a Ben” and challenge your sanity be renovating the family home!


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What we cover in today’s episode…

  • Life “Before The Block”– What was Kyal & Kara’s first ever renovation?
  • Applying for The Block – The audition and interview process
  • What was it like to have a camera crew following you around for 3 months straight? (And how did it feel when it was all over?)
  • Kyal & Kara’s Backstories – What was money and the Property Story like growing up?
  • Why did they decide to do it all again so quickly?
  • What was the Bad Side of being in the spotlight?
  • What was The Planning Process like when turning around a room in one week? (Did they get help from the producers of The Block?!)
  • What’s the deal with Kyal nailing his hand to the wall? (ouch!)
  • How did the find their current renovation project?
  • Top 3 Tips to Survive a Reno!
  • Accidents & Mishaps and things NOT to do when renovating?
  • What’s the “rule of thumb” of renovation costs per metre?
  • Is the goal to Renovate & Sell or Renovate & Accumulate?
  • How do they keep their mindset in check?
  • How has COVID-19 impacted their current life? How have they pivoted?
  • Importantly: What’s the secret to renovating, raising kids, running a business and NOT losing one’s mind in the process?


p.s. Here’s a quick snippet of the nail accident! 👇

p.p.s. And here’s a behind the scenes view on our recording 👇





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