473 | Juggling Teenagers, Divorce, and 4 Properties: How This Single Mum Conquered Her Financial Pain – Chat with Leisa



It’s no secret that maintaining a multi-property portfolio in a high-interest environment is hard. Now add in a difficult divorce and raising two teenagers in the most expensive phase of their lives and well…

You have the incredibly motivational and heart-warming story of Leisa, this week’s brilliant Summer Series guest. 

From her initial plan to own 10 properties (yep…things really have changed since the times when “he who dies with the most properties wins!”) to the revolving door of properties she’s bought and sold to juggle cash flow…

We follow Leisa on her jaw-dropping journey as she navigates holding onto her 4 properties, is blasted with a $15,000 levy fee, manages mortgage prison and much more on her journey to passive income retirement.

An inspirational tale for all, we hope Leisa’s story will inspire – particularly the middle-aged folks out there or solo supermums – who fear it’s too late for them to get onto the property ladder. Please just listen to this episode!

P.S. Merry Christmas folks! From Bryce, Ben & the team of Stigs, we hope you have a very safe and festive break 😊🎄🎅🎁


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  • 0:00 – Juggling Teenagers, Divorce, and 4 Properties: How This Single Mum Conquered Her Financial Pain 
  • 1:34 – Welcome Leisa!  
  • 2:48 – The family decision that changed her life…  
  • 4:41 – Her eye-opening money experiences at boarding school 😮  
  • 8:33 – First jobs and her foray into property  
  • 11:09 – The 1st money management system she had  
  • 12:38 – How did she learn her money values?  
  • 13:51 – Buying Property #1  
  • 17:29 – Struck by a $15,000 levy – with no benefit?! 🙁  
  • 20:57 – Why did she choose a unit over a house?  
  • 22:13 – Property #2 and the family home!  
  • 24:13 – Selling a property, sheriffs & maternity leave… 
  • 28:05 – An original plan of 10 properties?!   
  • 31:00 – 6 properties in 5 years! 😮  
  • 34:25 – The Divorce: Just 12 hours to switch from joint to sole ownership!?  
  • 37:02 – THIS is how she continued to finance her property portfolio  
  • 42:01 – Why having aligned money values is SO critical!!  
  • 46:47 – Caught in mortgage prison & navigating a rising rate environment  
  • 48:52 – Getting creative with solutions  
  • 52:40 – Reworking her cash flow through tax!  
  • 54:22 – How to become problem aware (aka. Why most people DON’T achieve a self-funded retirement)  
  • 57:58 – Property as a financial backbone  
  • 1:00:08 – This is an absolute success story 😊  
  • 1:03:55 – Why did Leisa come onto the couch?  
  • 1:06:33 – Thank you Leisa! What an incredible story.  
  • 1:07:25 – For those holding, use this to see how long your money will last.  
  • 1:10:35 – Merry Christmas folks!!


472 | “We’re Moving to Kalgoorlie!”: Sacrifices, Savings, and Three Investment Properties Later – Chat with Amy



This week’s episode is about many things… 

💎 The boundless rewards that come from delayed gratification,
📚 The enlightening power of financial empowerment, and…
🧑‍🌾 Getting out of your comfort zone by heading to the outback.  

Meet Amy, today’s brave and resourceful Summer Series guest!  

Growing up with “tangible money values”, Amy would spend her early 20’s prioritising life experiences over financial gain until the age of 26 when she made 1 life-changing decision…  

This would completely change her financial future and allow her and Sam, her wife, to leap onto the property ladder in less than a year.   

Tune in to hear what this revolutionary decision was, their experience moving from the East Coast to the Outback and their diverse property investing journey.    

From their first hands-on property investment to the land purchase near Byron Bay to the joint venture with her parents, Amy’s story has many chapters full of laughs and good lessons along the way.  

An episode for those who are willing to get outside their comfort zone to get into the property game, listen in now! 



P.S. Did we mention…Amy’s been a Property Couch listener for 9 years?! What an honour to talk to a long-time listener 😊🌌✨ 


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  • 0:00 – “We’re Moving to Kalgoorlie!”: Sacrifices, Savings, and Three Investment Properties Later 
  • 1:23 – Welcome Amy!  
  • 2:30 – Tangible money values & having parents who “taught them how to fish”  
  • 5:52 – 2 sisters, 2 different investing pathways  
  • 6:54 – Passing on these values to the kids… 
  • 8:08 – Travelling & spending on experiences in her 20s  
  • 9:47 – The money system she’s always used to save…  
  • 10:55 – The big sacrifice they had to make to get onto the property ladder  
  • 12:21 – From the Coast to Outback: The Move to Kalgoorlie!  
  • 14:19 – Why did Amy decide to financially educate herself?  
  • 17:00 – Why they chose their investing strategy!  
  • 17:21 – Their first investment property  
  • 19:19 – THIS is best asset they purchased!  
  • 21:13 – Why did they choose to invest and build a Granny Flat?  
  • 23:23 – Releasing Equity & Starting a Family  
  • 24:57 – Going borderless!  
  • 27:38 – Would she do it again?  
  • 29:51 – The joint venture with the parents!  
  • 32:45 – Her pragmatic approach to rates and land tax 
  • 36:16 – Into the future: Kids growing up and outgrowing the family home?  
  • 38:04 – What does money mean to Amy?  
  • 40:59 – Why she wanted to come onto the couch!  
  • 44:07 – Key Takeaways  
  • 45:37 – What an incredible story! Thank you Amy! 😊  

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439 | HELP! What To Do When You’ve Got No Buffer Left…

With Australia’s 11-month interest rate hike finally at an end, we’re sure many are feeling the strain from larger debts, lower cashflows, and heavily hit buffers. That’s why the theme of today’s Jam-packed Q&A Day is all about… 

Bouncing back!   

Yep. In today’s episode, we’re covering exactly how to reposition and recover when interest rates have nearly wiped out your entire buffer! 

From making your reduced “rainy day” money last to Ben’s Golden Buffer Ratio (plus a behind-the-scenes look at how our experienced team of planners do it), we’re sharing how to bunker down and hold for the long-term as the market bottoms out (which we reckon is happening NOW!) 

And of course, like all gigantic Q&A Days, we’re not just unpacking how to bounce back from tough economic conditions but deep diving into how folks can rebound and empower themselves from… 

Dodgy Buyers Agents: What to do once the papers have been signed, the dust has settled and then…you realise your Real Estate agent was the property owner!?!   

 (And if that isn’t heartbreaking enough…this investor saved for 10 years to afford this deposit 🙁) 

Dealing with Divorce Settlement: Three investment properties and a Principal Place of Residence together?! What is the best path forward for Michael???  

 Plus, we answer: How much taxation knowledge should a Buyers Agent really have?!  

Another massive episode that looks at the many ways investors can rebuild and restart again; tune in now for some timely wisdom!  


Tune in now or watch the episode below 😊 >>


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Here’s some of the gold we cover… 

  • 0:00 The incoming gold today! 
  • 1:26 Winners are grinners…😉  
  • 4:09 New updates to Moorr & check out our social refresh on Instagram & YouTube 
  • 8:02 – Mindset Minute: Warren Buffet,“I’ve never been a good judge of the markets…” 
  • 17:51 – Q1) Help! This Buyers Agent Didn’t Disclose Critical Information 
  • 21:04 – What happened when Bryce called some friends… 
  • 24:22 THIS is the worst behaviour by a Buyers Agents… 
  • 25:36 – What should Jane do now?! (Some words are struggled with here 😉)  
  • 28:55 The Real Buyers Agents Game 
  • 30:37 Why off-market purchases are NOT the holy grail  
  • 32:06 Buyers Agents are like…Obstetricians?!?! 
  • 33:52 – Folks, outsource the execution, not the U_____!!  
  • 35:43 – Q2) Should My Buyers Agent Have Taxation Knowledge?  
  • 37:25 Ben’s Words of Wisdoms: NEVER buy a property for a ____ advantage, do it for…  
  • 38:17 This is the baseline (Work on this premise!!)   
  • 41:11 The 2 rules that Bryce learned from his first mentor… 
  • 43:09 Q3) Divorce Settlement – Buying an IP  
  • 44:17 If it ended well vs. if it ended badly… 
  • 46:38 Always work backwards! 
  • 48:38 The #3 Steps Michael should take  
  • 49:04 Folks, this is really a problem about S_r_c_u_i_ _ !!    
  • 53:22 – Q4) Unplanned Hits On Your Buffer  
  • 55:45 – Ways to extend your buffer… 
  • 57:44 – Where Ben thinks interest rates are headed!!   
  • 1:01:14 More ideas for stretching your financial position  
  • 1:04:04 – Ben’s Golden Ratio for Buffers (+ how our experienced team calculates clients’ cash buffers)  
  • 1:08:17 – The market has bottomed out!?  
  • 1:10:37 – Thank you to all our Q askers today! Email us to claim your free Start & Build course😊   



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438 | REVEALED: Avoid these Property Buying Myths

There are many myths about buying property, but… it is important to avoid the hype of the headlines folks! 

In this week’s episode, we tackle some of the biggest property-buying myths going around – and bust them right open with facts and real-life examples from our team on the ground.  

This is Part 2 of our series on myths and misconceptions and today we unpack some of the big ones; 

🔎 Are property prices dropping?? 

🔎 The Time it takes to transact   

🔎 What is a Bargain Property? 

🔎 Unpacking the perfect property myth   

🔎 Set and forget strategies are non-existent…  

🔎 What is the Growth Corridor and what is the corridor measuring???   

🔎 How to avoid the hype!! 

Another jam-packed episode for you as we separate fact from fiction when it comes to buying property! 

Tune in now or watch the episode below 😊 >>


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Here’s some of the gold we cover… 

  • 0:00 – The next installment of our Mythbusters series   
  • 03:30 – Yes, we have had an interest rate pause….. BUTbe cautious    
  • 03:36 – What are the rhythms we are really looking for??   
  • 04:12 – Mindset Minute……   
  • 04:45 – Myth #1 – Are property prices _______??    
  • 06:02 – At the coal face of property buying in Melbourne…  
  • 07:18 – Are listings really moving this quickly??  
  • 08:49 – Why our team is missing out… Why we need to be wary of the headlines…    
  • 10:05 – This property was a perfect storm   
  • 15:40 – Is The uncertainty of COVID dissipating??  
  • 16:11 – Are all buyers at the mercy of interest rates??   
  • 17:13 – This is a Warning signal … AND  a leverage point    
  • 18:25 – What about Adelaide..   
  • 19:00 – Is it affordable??  
  • 20:00 – High competition…. Where is the demand coming from?  
  • 22:10 – Why do we keep reinforcing suburb and property types?  
  • 22:35 – How are we learning from the missed deals?  
  • 22:55 – …and the Brisbane market   
  • 23:50 – What is the mindset and conditioning of these buyers??   
  • 26:05 – Perth… Why are they saying it’s nuts!!!   
  • 28:08 – Are Investors acting irrationally???   
  • 29:27 – Is demand exceeding supply??  
  • 30:35 – Will property prices stabilise?    
  • 34:06 – Will we see interest rate falls and what will that do to borrowing power??  
  • 34:33 – Times are very different now… Who does this speak to?   
  • 36:00 – Will we see more growth instead of a correction?   
  • 36:14 – When can you predict the bottom?   
  • 37:00 – Myth # 2 – Time to ______  
  • 37:27 – It takes time to get ready!!!!   
  • 39:05 – Myth #3 – ______ property    
  • 39:41 – Do your fundamentals stack up?   
  • 40:32 – What’s with the bargaining rack at the shopping mall??  
  • 41:42 – Myth #4 – The ______ property myth    
  • 41:59 – Is this an alibi for procrastination???  
  • 44:15 – When do you say enough is enough?  
  • 44:40 – Myth #5 – Low _______ properties   
  • 44:56 – Why Set and forget strategies are non-existent…  
  • 48:12 – Investing is a process…. Not an EVENT   
  • 48:39 – Myth #6 – The ______ Corridor    
  • 48:52 – What is the corridor measuring???   
  • 49:50 – Are you investing in the developers’ profits????   
  • 53:50 – The four ways an investor pays? https://thepropertycouch.com.au/episode-019-four-ways-investor-pay-wrong-asset/   
  • 54:15 – What are the key takeaways?  
  • 54:20 – All of OUR underlying principles remain   
  • 55:40 – Avoid this – SIMPLE!!!  
  • And…   
  • 56:10 – Lifehack: How to game the big tech companies from surveillance capitalism  
  • 59:30 – What’s making property news?? 


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