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485 | Must the Plane Have Landed BEFORE I Retire?

 

Is 64 too old to be starting a property portfolio?  

Must your investment property be fully funded by the time one retires?  

And why does investing with intention matter – even after you’ve acquired 5 properties?  

In today’s Q&A we’re answering these fantastic questions that explore the many layers folks should consider BEFORE they choose to enter or exit the property game.  

This episode highlights the importance of planning and intention, from calculating how much you really need (and gaining clarity around your next step) to why you shouldn’t invest in property like stepping stones. 

Plus, we have a Listener Tale (or horror story) highlighting why property management matters. Listen now! 

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • Moorr Webinar: Best Tools for the Job – What to Use When?
    7:30pm AEDT, 19 March
    Within Moorr, our money management platform, there are currently over 25 features and tools, providing more than 100 different insights! In our webinar we’ll guide you on the best tools for the job and reveal how all your data comes together to give you meaningful insights through our “track your progress” approach to money management. Find out more or reserve your spot >>  
  • Corelogic’s Women in Property Report just released! Read it now >>  
  • Leave us a Q or share your story with the TPC community!
    Leave us a Q for our next Q&A Day (and we’ll give you a free Start & Build course!) or share your property journey and be in our next Winter Series.  Send us a voice message now >>   

 

Questions We Answer

Q1) How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire? from Richard  

Hi Ben and Bryce, Richard here.

I just wanna start by thanking you both for everything that you do for the community. It’s real eye opener and it helps me to get my head in the right spaces.

I look towards everyone my house fully paid off and looking to start my 1st investment, but my question is, I’m 52 just about paying my own property out.

How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire, or is it okay if it’s just looking after itself and can continue on for another few years, whilst your in retirement and fund itself in the background, if you can give us any help on that, that would be great.

Thank you.

 

Q2) Investing at 64 from Ralph 

Hi, I just wanna know if I can build a property portfolio at the age of 64. Thank you. 

 

Q3) Multiple IP’s already and wondering what to do next? from Matt   

Hi guys, it’s Matt here. 

I live down in Torquay, VIC. We have a number of investment properties: 2 in Queensland, 3 Victoria and we own our home. 

We own most of our investment properties. There is still a little bit of debt there. 

Basically, just looking for a financial plan or some advice as to what to do to move forward. I plan to step away from our business within the next five years and just see whether we can somehow live off the equity. 

I basically just want a plan and just maybe get you guys to have a look at our overall situation and offer some advice, and look forward to hear back from you. Bye. 

 

Listener Tale: The Importance of Property Management 

Hey Ben and Bryce, 

Just wanted to reach out and say Ep. 480[How to Fail to Retire on $2k per week] 

Guys! This is phe . nom . enal ! I can relate to some if not all of the “how to fail to build” points you raised here. 

My true story goes a little something like this:  

I bought my first house and land package as a PPR just before the GFC hit and after living in it for a year, rented it out because I went off traveling the world in my mid 20s for the next 8/9 years. After the real estate agency secured what I thought was a good tenant, I gave them the flick and managed the property privately. Thought it was a great idea to save a few dollars on fee’s right. Those same tenants moved out 5 years later and I had to replace all the carpets, repaint the walls and replace some fans the kids had swung off of. Needless to say, the bond certainly didn’t cover this. I kept the bond and offered the tenants to pay the rest of the bill. Obviously, I heard crickets from them so had to pay the rest out of my own pocket. I had landlords insurance but this is a worst case insurance for me and I never use it to claim small things. Its just for the “what if the house burns down”. 

You’d think I’d learn right? Wrong. I went and got another tenant, funny enough it was the family next door and they were moving out of that house because it was up for sale. I saw an opportunity to save of management fees again and 2 weeks rent the real estate would have charged for finding a new tenant. The new family moved in under a private agreement. Sweet as right? Nope.. after trying to manage this house from a yacht somewhere in the Bahamas (which I worked on btw not owned) I found out while doing my own tax return one year that they had under paid me rent. I had to send them emails and show them spread sheets from a far of how much they were behind and it was more than 5 grand. I thought enough was enough and got a property manager to helped sort them out and they did pay me what I was owed and all was fine. 

But do you know what the kicker is, well it’s not keeping up with what the rental market is doing. I.e. rents around my house had gone up and considerably, but because I was managing this house myself from a far I didn’t have the finger on the pulse. After all of this learning, let me tell you fella’s.. I have now learnt! I maintained a property manager for this house from then on. 

That lesson had taught me about property management and it’s importance. What it didn’t teach was having the right strategy in place, and so I sold that house at roughly the 10 year mark (insert palm in face emoji). 

I can whole heartly say that the net of the money I 

saved in management fee’s over the years was surely a net negative and as you can see to top it off I sold the property and paid commission to do so. I can’t bring myself to check the growth of that suburb and what the house would be worth now or event to check what it’s rental yield would be. For context I sold it in 2022. 

Final point I’ll make on this and for people who may read this, I wish I got accredited professional help because my future self would have thanked me for it. My wife and I have now got that help through Empower Wealth and we are on a path of retribution. 

I am a dedicated listener to your podcast. Keep up the great work! 

You guys are my Joe Rogen! 

Cheers Trev. 

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Must the Plane Have Landed BEFORE I Retire? 
  • 1:39 – The lengths we go through, Moorr webinar & a listener message!  
  • 7:29 – Mindset Minute: Rich vs Poor Mindset 
  • 12:17 – Q1) How important is it that an investment property is fully funded by the time you retire? 
  • 14:13 – If you wait, you rob yourself of the power of…  
  • 15:47 – We need to understand THIS before we start 
  • 18:05 – What your investment property should look like in retirement  
  • 19:34 – Why property investing isn’t like stepping stones  
  • 21:29 – “Strategy has to be informed by cashflow 
  • 23:53 – Q2) Investing at 64 
  • 24:50 – Work back from your needs 
  • 27:39 – Considerations for older investors 
  • 28:13 – Why market cycle timing is important 
  • 30:13 – Access to funding & lenders  
  • 34:41 – Q3) Multiple IP’s already and wondering what to do next? 
  • 35:42 – Why intention matters!  
  • 36:42 – Should Matt live off equity?  
  • 38:46 – How to figure out what is possible 
  • 39:49 – When rates or costs of living go up, how does it affect a Living Off Equity strategy? 
  • 41:57 – This is a perfect “What if” example 
  • 44:06 – The 4 Expense Categories  
  • 45:59 – What living off equity means  
  • 46:45 – Listener Tale: The Importance of Property Management 
  • 50:42 – You either pay with money or time!  

And… 

  • 52:13 – Lifehack: With or Without Me energy  
  • 55:22 – WMPN: Moving the dial for women!  

484 | Cracking the Code: Mastering the 60% Land to Asset Ratio

 

With soaring immigration and construction hitting historic lows, Australia’s property market faces an accommodation crisis. 

In Bryce’s words, “Disincentives have been happening for over a decade.”   

Kicking off our first Q&A session for 2024, we’re diving into the widespread economic and political factors that have become “the perfect recipe” for today’s housing crisis.  

We also dissect how to master the 60% of land-to-asset ratios and tackle this burning question:   

Is Brisbane a wise choice for investment with the 2032 Olympics on the horizon? Can we anticipate a property surge post-game? 

 Tune in now to find out! 

  

P.S. Happy International Women’s Day! To celebrate all the incredible women in our lives, how far we’ve come, and the work still to be done, we’ve got a special message from some of our great friends and past guests on The Property Couch. 

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • Moorr Webinar: Best Tools for the Job – What to Use When?
    7:30pm AEDT, 19 March
    Within Moorr, our money management platform, there are currently over 25 features and tools, providing more than 100 different insights! In our webinar we’ll guide you on the best tools for the job and reveal how all your data comes together to give you meaningful insights through our “track your progress” approach to money management. Find out more or reserve your spot >>  
  • Previous Episodes mentioned: 480 | How to FAIL to Retire on $2K Per Week 

 

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484 - Q2 Land to Value Ratios

 

Questions We Answer 

 Q1) Investment in Brisbane for 2032 Olympics from Jeremy  

“Hey Bryce and Ben, this is Jeremy from Brisbane. 

I’ve been listening to you guys now for approximately five months after I discovered your book. I’m up to episode 95 today, plus the one a week that you release. 

With this level of immersion, I think I’m actually hearing you guys talk in my dreams. I think I’ve finally got past the foreign language sign ups too, which is a big step. 

I really appreciate what you guys are offering with your knowledge and insight based on your experiences and expertise, it’s really helping me personally to make better choices in regards to where I’m coming with my investments. 

Anyway, the question is, what do you think about investing in the areas that are being upgraded for the upcoming Olympics in Brisbane? 

Do you think they will be good up until then and then crash, or at least decline? 

Or you believe that the infrastructure in the area will then support the growth for years to come? 

Thanks boys. Appreciate your help and keep up with work” 

 

Q2) Land to Asset Ratio from Bronwyn 

 “Hi Ben and Bryce, my name is Bronwyn and I just wanted to ask a general question in regards to Land values. We talk about Land to Asset ratios when purchasing property.  

I do have a property, and this doesn’t need to be generally specific to that property, but the council valuations or government valuations on the land are far lower than what land is being sold for in the area.   

I just wanted to understand when you’re looking at land to asset ratios, which land value were we actually utilizing to get our percentages?”  

 

Q3) Challenges in Addressing the Accommodation Crisis from Michael 

“Hi Bryce and Ben, my name is Michael. 

I’m interested in your thoughts on the accommodation crisis gripping our country at the moment. We have record levels of immigration while we are recording all time low levels in building approvals and building completions. Builders are going bankrupt every day and leaving the industry. 

We have a skills shortage with a lack of trades people available to do the work. Material costs keep rising faster than inflation there’s a shortage of land to develop, increasing interest rates are severely limiting the amount borrowers can obtain from the banks and APRA are still insisting bank apply a 3% test on interest rates charged. 

The only solution government seems to be able to come up with is to subsidise build to rent with land tax concessions, and massive investment in public housing. But there are not enough trades to build these dwellings. At the same time, the government punishes property investors with higher taxes, increased compliance costs, expectations of ever increasing standards and accommodation provision, and taxes on short term accommodation. 

With private sector provides 97% of private rental accommodation yet I can’t think of one incentive that is being provided to motivate them to provide more. 40% of the build cost goes to three level of government. I feel this needs to be reduced. I would like to see the removal of stamp duty for purchases buying off the plan in order to feed the pipeline for greater supply. 

This will provide developers and necessary pre-purchases required to obtain construction funding. The development section has been in decline ever since stamp duty concessions for off the plan purchases were removed several years ago. 

I’m interested on your thoughts on this proposal and whether you have any other ideas. Thanks.”  

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Cracking the Code: Mastering the 60% Land to Asset Ratio   
  • 2:47 – Happy International Women’s Day!  
  • 10:07 – Moorr Webinar: The best tools for the job…  
  • 12:34 – Mindset Minute: Gold from Poor Charlie’s Almanack  
  • 21:00 – “The time horizon speak is directly proportional to…” 
  • 23:47 – Q1) Investment in Brisbane for 2032 Olympics 
  • 25:35 – What really matters for economic and property growth  
  • 29:03 – The benefits will actually be spread across Australia…  
  • 31:12 – Olympic-sized successes and failures  
  • 35:38 – What happens after the torch?  
  • 36:03 – Our verdict!  
  • 37:46 Q2) Land to Asset Ratio 
  • 38:48 – How to crack the 60% land-to-asset ratio 
  • 41:39 – Note! There are different costs for different types of builds  
  • 42:27 – Hack for properties that are older than 30 years!  
  • 45:08 – Watch the YouTube video to see this in-depth graph  
  • 46:28 – Why we prefer older over new properties  
  • 47:42 – Talk to your local Buyers Agents!  
  • 48:25 – What happens if you don’t care about land value?  
  • 50:05 Q3) Challenges in Addressing the Accommodation Crisis
  • 52:13 – Why did the builders tap out?  
  • 53:27 – The recipe for short-term disaster  
  • 57:31 – “We’ve Been Disincentivised for Over a Decade” 
  • 1:02:27 – Victoria’s Minimum Standards are a great example of this!  

And… 

  • 1:03:49 – Lifehack: How to improve your sleep quality  
  • 1:06:55 – WMPN 1) Fact-checking the Greens  
  • 1:12:02 – WMPN 2) NSW’s “No-Ground Eviction” up for debate 

 

483 | Housing is Undersupplied, So WHY are Home Values Falling? – Chat with Eliza Owen

 

In this week’s episode, we’re welcoming back an incredibly passionate and eloquent data analysis and reporting expert who is ALSO a returning guest. Please welcome back… 

Eliza Owen, Head of Residential Research Australia at CoreLogic!    

With her experience as a housing market researcher spanning nearly a decade, Eliza has reported on many of Australia’s critical housing issues, from affordability and credit conditions to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on market performance. 

In this episode, we’ll use her brilliant insights to explore precisely WHY we see the numbers in today’s property market, like…   

🏠 With Australia facing an undersupplied housing crisis, why are some market values still falling?!    

📉 How is the housing market defying economic predictions?    

🔄  And what’s going on with the inverse relationship between property values and interest rates?!    

Listen now to find out!  

  

P.S.  Stay tuned till the end for a sneak peek at CoreLogic’s webinar with Eliza & Effie Zahos, celebrating International Women’s Day and all the women in property. 🎉 

 

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Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Housing is Undersupplied, So WHY are Home Values Falling?  
  • 1:32 – Our 9th Birthday, can you help us + PICA Webinar Replay  
  • 4:09 – Mindset Minute: The Paradigm for Investors 
  • 9:17 – Welcome back Eliza Owen!  
  • 10:40 – Recap & Money Backstory  
  • 12:05 – Eliza has never used a credit card: Financial conversations & emotional responses to money 
  • 16:48 – Why she decided to buy a unit over a house!  
  • 21:56 – If housing is so undersupplied, why are some markets falling in value? 
  • 24:35 – How does changing family and renter demographics affect demand?  
  • 27:46 – The social problem with housing  
  • 30:18 – What is True Demand?  
  • 31:44 – If interest rates go down, will APRA’s 3% buffer rate go down  
  • 32:50 – How the housing market is defying economic indicators 
  • 33:43 – The inverse relationship of property values and interest rates  
  • 36:48 – 25.6% of properties purchased in cash?!  
  • 38:22 – The masterstroke in Western Australia’s market  
  • 41:24Are we seeing green shoots?  
  • 44:05 – How much of what we saw in 2023 is due to behavioural economics?  
  • 45:31 – If rates don’t pause, will more homeowners be forced to sell?  
  • 48:46 – The changing gap between housing and units 
  • 54:08 – The Substitution Effect: The Buyers of 2015/16 
  • 59:11 – Why CoreLogic’s “Women & Property” report matters 

And…  

  • 1:05:09 – What a fantastic session, thank you Eliza!  
  • 1:07:44 – Lifehack: How to stop feeling overwhelmed when juggling life  
  • 1:10:52 – WMPN: Greens going to vote against Labor’s Home Deposit Scheme 😮  

 

482 | Why Your Financial Habits Aren’t Sticking

 

We all know money is simple, but behaviour is hard. 

So what can we do to create lasting financial habits and behaviours instead of falling back into old money habits?   

Folks, in today’s episode, we’re sharing a scientifically backed solution that’ll reveal how to achieve your goals financially and in life.  

From introducing feedback loops to creating accountability (and that’s just the tip of the iceberg), we’re uncovering how these can be used to boost goal achievement, motivation, self-efficacy, and more!  

It’s a revolutionary episode where we dive beyond the waters of investing psychology and into the deeper, murkier waters of why humans act the way we do. Give it a listen now!   

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • It’s our 9th Birthday! Our Present to You: Free Suburb Report
    Time’s running out to get your Suburb Report for free. Learn how your suburb has performed and its changing community and properties.  
  • “Make Money Smart Again” Book: Our MoneySMARTS money management that’ll reduce your decision fatigue, teach healthy financial habits, and (as the name suggests) simplify your money management. 😊  
  • “The Armchair Guide to Property Investing” Book: The simple steps to invest in property and how to achieve your passive income goals. 
  • Moorr Money Management App: Our platform automates the money management system from “Make Money Simple Again” (available on mobile and desktop). We’ve just introduced MyFinancials and Historical Tracking to help you easily track your progress towards your financial goals!  
  • Read James Clear, Author of Atomic Habits, Ultimate Habit Tracker Guide  
  • Episodes 261 | How to Hack Your Habits to Make You a Better Money Manager – Chat with James Clear 

 

Events Mentioned

  • The Property Investors Council of Australia (PICA) Webinar:
    Melinda Jennison, REBAA Chair, will share insights into the 2024 market outlook, key elements to watch out for as property investors and uncover what buyers’ agents bring to the table. 7-8pm, 27th February AEDST.  
  • Investing for Doctors: Financial Independence Career Optionality Conference
    Ben will be the first speaker on Saturday, 9 March! Tune in to hear a range of speakers from the property world sharing information to assist doctors in everything they need to succeed in their financial and wealth creation journey. The event runs 9-10th March in Sydney. 

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Why Your Financial Habits Aren’t Sticking    
  • 1:21 – It’s our 9th birthday & upcoming events 
  • 8:07 – Mindset Minute: Saving vs. Investing  
  • 9:39 – “Money is simple, behaviour is hard”  
  • 12:00 – The secret behind motivation and goal achievement  
  • 14:00 – How to implement goal tracking  
  • 16:32 – Why financial goals are no different from any other goals 
  • 20:18 – Finding evidence to increase your Self-Efficacy 
  • 22:21 – Be, Do, Have   
  • 26:02 – Habit formation and behavioural change  
  • 29:14 – How Ben quelled his financial anxiety 
  • 33:15 – C_ _p_r_s_n is the thief of joy 
  • 36:05 – Keep it simple!  
  • 40:10 – How to overcome decision fatigue 
  • 43:44 – THIS can be used for the power of good or bad  
  • 49:37 – If you see the progress, it makes you… 
  • 52:37 – Perception of t___ and e____ 
  • 54:27 – This is the 2nd most important thing to be successful  
  • 56:21 – How to track your progress easily  
  • 1:06:16 – Recap 
  • 1:07:20 – Sustained Consistency!   

And… 

  • 1:08:15 – Lifehack: Small action to motivation. Take action today.  
  • 1:22:54 – WMPN: Interest rate cuts in the later part of year… 

 

481 | Property Market Outlook 2024

 

It’s everybody’s favourite time of the year…  

(No, it’s not Christmas. Or your birthday. Well, it’s actually OUR birthday month and we’re giving you a present: Our Free Suburb Report 😉) 

It is, however, that time of year when we bring you…  

Our 2024 Property Market Outlook!   

Using expert data from the past 12 months and our own countless years of experience, we’re covering…  

👉 The headlines we saw in 2023 (and the #1 biggest derailer the Gov didn’t expect) 
👉 Why did we see housing prices soar? (With economic insights)
👉 The Big Focus of 2024, plus the one critical number the RBA is waiting to change before interest rates drop

👉 Where will the plane land? Interest rates, inflation figures & the easing cycle  
👉 What investors want to see in business investment data
👉 The Supply Story: What data reveals about future sale and rent volume   
👉 The downside risks and critical upsides in 2024
👉 Will property prices grow over the next 12 months?  
👉 The Rental Story: Will the crisis continue?  
👉 The most challenged markets and what markets we predict to see growth in!  
👉 Rental Rises: Who are the price makers and takers today?      

Tune in now to hear us honestly assess the past predictions and forecast the future of Australia’s housing market! 

  

P.S. The Property Investors Council of Australia (PICA) needs support! As mentioned in “What’s Making Property News”, PICA is a not-for-profit organisation that gives property investors across Australia a voice. Any membership or donation helps. Become a member, donate or find out more today >>   

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • Our Birthday Present to You: Free Suburb Report 
    Go one level deeper than our Property Market Outlook. Learn how your suburb has performed and its changing community and properties. ‘Cos it’s our birthday month, we’re also giving it away for $0 (Usually RRP $40)   
  • Share what’s on your mind through our SpeakPipe: Leave us your raving reviews, little lifehacks and burning questions – and if we mention it on the podcast, you’ll get a free Start & Build course as our thank you 😊   

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Property Market Outlook 2024 
  • 1:39 – Free Suburb Report  
  • 5:29 – Thank you, Muzzaaa (Let us know what’s on your mind & get a free Start & Build course!)  
  • 6:27 – Mindset Minute: There are two ways to use money… 
  • 7:14 – What happened in 2023?  
  • 10:07 – Why have housing prices soared?  
  • 11:37 – Last year, we got THIS wrong…  
  • 12:20 – The Water Wheel is slowing 
  • 14:44 – The big headline of 2024 
  • 15:07 – What we want to see in Business Investment data 
  • 17:15 – Are businesses and government still splurging on spending?  
  • 18:45 – The number that needs to change before interest rates drop… 
  • 21:27 – The drivers of demand  
  • 23:51 – Our assumptions  
  • 26:32 – The dangerous derailers  
  • 27:29 – The supply story: What the data reveals about future sales and rent volume  
  • 30:01 – New financing for investors & owner-occupiers 
  • 32:51 – The incoming storm: The #7 downside risks 
  • 35:38 – Here’s the exciting upsides!  
  • 37:06 – Buyer Demand across Australia 
  • 38:59 – Days on Market & Vendor Discounts: What do they signal?  
  • 41:32 – Use THIS sophisticated tool for predicting growth…  
  • 43:53 – Good signs for property prices  
  • 45:31 The rental story: Will the crisis continue?  
  • 48:12 – The most challenged markets 
  • 50:29 – Let’s consolidate: Big 4 bank’s outlook & what markets we predict to see growth 
  • 53:38 – The Commuter Belt is driving… 
  • 54:44 – Why Melbourne is a challenged market  
  • 58:56 – Predictions for Sydney  
  • 1:01:38 – Our advice for 2024  

And… 

  • 1:05:44 – Lifehack: Sleep is the best meditation. Here’s how to ease yourself into it.
  • 1:09:57 – WMPN: Help give investors a voice through supporting PICA 

 

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