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TPC Gold | Have I Left It Too Late to Buy Property?

This snippet is from one of our previous episodes: When Is It Too Late To Get Into Property? 

It’s a question many Australians are quietly asking themselves: “Is it too late for me to buy property?” 

In this TPC Gold snippet, Ben and Bryce respond to a heartfelt listener question from Luke—who, at 46, is still renting with his wife and two teenage kids.  

With $80K in savings and a growing concern about renting into retirement, Luke wants to know:
👉 Is it worth taking on a $700K mortgage at this stage of life?
👉 Or is it simply too late to start the property journey? 

In this honest and practical discussion, Ben and Bryce break down: 

  • The mindset shift needed when starting later in life 
  • The real numbers behind a $700K home loan at 46 
  • Alternatives like downsizing, rentvesting, and seeking support from family 
  • Why “lifestyle by design” should always be your north star 

It’s not about comparing yourself to others—it’s about what’s still possible with a clear plan. 

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Transcript

Bryce Holdaway
“Is it worth having a $700k mortgage at our age?” is the title for this. Here it goes: My wife and I are at a crossroads. We never thought owning a home was worth it until now. And I reckon we’ve missed the boat. For years, my wife and I deliberated over buying a home. We travelled for work in our twenties, so renting was easier while we were on the go. By the time we settled down to have kids, one income made it almost impossible to save for a deposit. Fast forward 15 years and we’re 46 with two teenage kids and still renting. We have around $260,000 in super between us, plus $80,000 in savings. We’re sick of seeing that $3k rent disappear from our banks each month and we’re scared of renting as we age further. So, is it worth having a $700,000 mortgage at our age? And if not, what’s the best way for us to secure our future? That’s from Luke. Good question there, Ben and probably there’d be a bunch of our community who could relate to that.  

Ben Kingsley
Yeah, look, it’s a really challenging question, right? Because what’s going on in Luke’s mind is that he’s seeing the stories of the day showing property prices booming and a whole consideration for what his life looks like. So I’m gonna start with a sort of broad concept here and then hopefully we can get down to some number crunching as well, just to give some dialogue around that. My first point here is, don’t worry about what the Joneses are doing because what you and your family need to work out Luke, is what floats your boat? What’s the lifestyle by design that you want to create?  

Now, if traveling is a big part of that and not having all of the bells and whistles and all of this, you know, the sort of the spoils of high-end things, don’t worry about that. What I am saying to you, if that is important to you and having a nest egg and a financial future for life, we do need to do something now, right? We do need to basically look at your situation. So how we would go about that is spend a bit of time in terms of writing down your core values. What are the things that are important to you that give you great worth? Not as in material value, but in great worth in terms of make you enjoy life and have happiness around that life. And then start to work from that position in terms of what money do we need to be able to enjoy that?  

Because you will come to a potential conclusion that you are right, that rental that you’re paying, that $3,000 if you could substitute that for a mortgage, whereby that’s then going into a longer asset and the reality for you at 46 is you don’t have a 55-year, 60-year retirement target. The funds that you’ve saved up unfortunately won’t carry you through for 30 or 40 years. So you’ve got to make that decision around what that looks like for you. And as a family, what you’re going to do as a family unit to get that. Because what we haven’t learned from you, Luke, is all of those experiences, that amazing travel journey and all the things that you’ve done, which has made your life a rich life in terms of that. Well, now we’re starting to think about the future. So if you can understand those concepts, you can now start to get yourself into a stage where you can start doing some number crunching around what’s possible. 

Bryce Holdaway
Yeah, because it’s true that time is the secret sauce. So the longer the better, but 46 is certainly not over the hill. And as you said, if the time horizon for retirement age is like, it’s not 55 or 60. It’s more extended than that. Let’s call it 65. That’s at least 20 years that you have in a cycle going forward. And if it’s at another 10 years, it’s 30 years; that’s still a long time. So the question of “Is it worth having a 700K mortgage at our age?”  

As Ben said, it’s not easy to say because we don’t know what your income is. But it’s probably worth thinking that if you’re just having cash in the bank, you’re probably losing money each and every year because of inflation, right? Cash is not returning much, whereas at least if you have a property, it’s giving you a hedge against that inflation. And ultimately, the goal here is to not, it’s not to retire on $2,000 a week, which our book is. The goal is to actually find out the number that you need to actually get what Ben said, the lifestyle by design that you’re chasing. So a couple of things to think about.  

It’s not too late at 46 if it’s still your goal to get into the property market. But one of the interesting things that you’ve got here is $80,000 in savings. That is a phenomenal amount of cash to save. Like ask anyone who’s tried to save $20,000. It’s difficult and it requires sacrifice. So you’ve done four times that, which is $80,000. So $80,000 is a lot of money to save, but then when you put it in context with purchasing property, it’s not a lot of money because there’s a fair bit that you need to buy. So what I would suggest is needing to be really realistic about where you can buy, because if you’re renting, chances are you’re probably able to rent in a location that allows you to match your lifestyle. But the big question is, can you actually still buy in the same area for as Ben said, like for like. The amount of rent that you’re paying equals the amount of the mortgage that you’d be paying. So I thought a quick run through of the basics might be helpful here. So if you have, let’s go back to the question, $700,000 that you wanna (use to) buy property.  

Just so you have an idea in your mind in this situation how much you need. If we just do a basic 20% deposit, so the bank will lend you 80%. $700,000, 20% (of that) is $140,000. So first of all, you’ll need to kick in $140k, but it doesn’t stop there because you’re also going to have to get the entry cost for property, which is stamp duty and costs. So let’s just do that at 5%, sometimes a little bit more, but 5% because I don’t do quick maths in my head. So $700k, 5% (of that) is $35,000. So if at a 5% deposit, that’s another $35k. So add those two together, the $140k plus the $35k means $175,000. So you need $175,000 to buy the property. But then if you’ve spent all your money to get the property, that’s a dangerous position to be in, so you need a buffer. So if you’re 46 with teenage kids, let’s just say you need a $20,000 buffer. So add all that together, the $175k plus the $20,000 buffer means you need $195,000 to buy a $700,000 property, which clearly is a bit a way from the $80,000. So it’s hard often to reconcile that… that I’ve saved all this money, Ben, but then when you put it into what does it take to buy some real estate, it’s still not enough.  

Ben Kingsley
No, it’s not. I think that the challenge that Luke has got is gotta be around what you’ve got to do. It’s absolutely, it’s non-negotiable, right? You’re gonna have to start putting some money away for something. So whether you choose to put that into super or whether you choose to put that into property, it’s really clear that the run rate that you’re on right now is not necessarily gonna build out that nest egg for a comfortable retirement.  

So if you looked at your opportunity, you’ve got effectively judgment calls and trade-offs to make here. The trade-off could be that you move to a cheaper location and you effectively then try and buy in that cheaper location. So Bryce has used the classic 20% example. If we do say a $500,000 purchase, 5% cost is $25,000. You put a 10% deposit down, that’s 50 grand. That’s a total of $75,000; you capitalise the interest on lenders mortgage insurance because you’re above the 80% and you’re pretty close. And then you’re in the game. And then all of a sudden your $3,000 is going off to paying off a debt over a 20-to-30-year period. And you’d be pretty comfortable in the view that property prices will increase to a point where you build up a nest egg. Now it may not be your dream home; it may be a property that you buy that you add value to over time.  

And you may choose to sell that one to downsize or retire to a regional town or whatever to live out a quieter life. And then put the proceeds into investments and live off that passive income or into super. But the bottom line here is you need to start doing something. The clock is ticking on your retirement target. And the longer you leave it, the more a situation where you see you could be working into your late 60s or early 70s. So we do want you to do something.  

You can go and seek advice to get a look at those numbers and those cash flows. Once you do the work on what’s important to you and your wife and the kids. The alternative option, which we haven’t addressed and probably our community saying, how come you haven’t mentioned rentvesting yet? Rentvesting is a model where you live where you wanna live, but ultimately you trap the difference between a very high mortgage and what you’re paying as rent and you turn that into some form of investment in acquiring, say borderless assets and low entry level properties that you can build out cashflow on and build out that wealth over time as well. So you then try and get the best of both worlds. There is an increased risk element to that for some people. But again, the bottom line for me here is you need to get some advice around your situation.  

And that needs to be firstly around goals, secondly around cashflow. And that will start to tell you the story in terms of what you’re prepared to trade off, what you’re prepared to give up and sacrifice for the long-term benefit of you and your wife in retirement.  

Bryce Holdaway
And look, the last thing I’ll add to that is if you are in a fortunate position where the ‘bank of mum and dad’ is an option for you, well, then that clearly could be another place where you could use that security to buy the $700,000 property, which means that you can keep your cash still available because you’re still servicing the whole debt. And then you can demonstrate that you have some liquidity there. You have a buffer, and you can get on with life and make sure that the family member is comfortable that you can service your debts.  

Ben Kingsley
They’re older, aren’t they, Bryce? So that’s the thing. You’ve got to make sure that the bank has an appetite for those people who might be semi-retired to be able to use that equity. But they’re around. So that’s where again, an investment-savvy mortgage broker could do that option shopping for you in terms of choices. And that’s another example of where you can potentially borrow more but have some security of your parents behind that as well. So, a good piece of advice. 

 

TPC Gold | Can You Use Your IP’s Equity to Pay Off Your Home Loan Early?

This snippet is from one of our previous episodes: Q&A – How to Avoid Poor Loan Structure 

It’s a question we get all the time from property investors: “Can I use the equity in my investment property to pay off my home loan faster?” 

In today’s TPC Gold soundbite, Bryce and Ben unpack this exact scenario—and explain why it’s not as straightforward as it seems. 

Spoiler alert: It all comes down to how the ATO views the purpose of your loan. 

In this short but powerful episode, you’ll learn:
💸 What the ATO considers a private (non-deductible) purpose—and how that affects your tax deductions
⚠️ How redraws and lines of credit can accidentally “pollute” your loan structure
✅ Why having separate splits and clean offsets is crucial for clarity and compliance 

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If you’re thinking about refinancing, using equity, or paying off your mortgage sooner, make sure the structure is right from the beginning. 

Book a free initial appointment with an investment-savvy mortgage broker from our sister company, Empower Wealth.

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Tax deductibility depends on your personal circumstances and how funds are used. For advice specific to your situation, book an appointment with a qualified tax accountant from our sister company, Empower Wealth.

Remember: No mortgage broker should be giving tax advice. Always speak to a registered tax professional to get it right. 

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Transcript

Bryce Holdaway
We’ll go on to another sort of related question as we get all these segues. This is from Dean. “Hi guys, my question is can you use equity in your investment property to wipe out your principal place of residence mortgage? Cheers, Dean.” I’ll have a go at that. 

Ben Kingsley
Yeah. 

Bryce Holdaway
I’ll have a go at the answer, and you’re the mortgage broker, so you come and tidy up the edges…but the answer is you can do it. This is a common question. So people say: If I secure against an investment property and then pay off a non-tax deductible debt like a principal place of residence, can I do it? The answer is you can do it, Ben. But the tax department looks under and they go: What was the purpose of the loan? And if you secure against your investment properties to use a loan to pay off a private non-tax deductible debt, the tax office just goes “I see what’s going on under here. The purpose of the loan wasn’t for investment. It was actually for a private purpose, therefore we will not allow the interest to be deductible.” So to answer the question, you can do it, but it’s not gonna give you any benefit.  

Ben Kingsley
No, effectively you’re going to have the same debt and it’s still going to be in the same position where it is effectively non-deductible debt. The other classic one that people do here, Bryce, is they release equity from their investment properties or their family home or whatever it may be, and then turn that into an investment property and then say: oh, no, no, no, that property’s an investment property now and I release the equity out of that to put a deposit down for my new upsized family home. Surely I can claim that because it’s against that investment property. No, purpose of funds test – in terms of what it does, that money is still non-deductible. So be very careful. People just think that they can pay loans down and then release the money against all that, and that’s going to be deductible? Not true.  

Bryce Holdaway
Love it. Ben, beware of pollution. So this is often something that people don’t think about. So for example, let’s say you do everything by the book. You set up a loan, it’s for investment purposes only. You’ve got a redraw facility Ben, and what happens is you think: well, with that redraw facility, I’m going to put all of my income into the redraw facility, and for five days, I’m going to have all the interest benefits of that. And then on a Thursday, I’m going to pull my cash out and pay for the groceries.  

Problem: The pulling out of the money just changed the purpose of the loan. You have just fully polluted that loan. So it was initially set up with an intent for investment, and the fact that you parked some money there and pulled it out for groceries at the end of the week; you have just polluted the loan. You’ve just made that loan very complicated, which is why an offset facility is cleaner and avoids the pollution over a redraw facility.  

Ben Kingsley
And while we’re at it, Bryce, and we’ve talked about this before, the other great pollution killer, or basically the interest deductible killer, is lines of credit. I get $100,000 line of credit, I use $80,000 for investment purposes, and $20,000 to buy a car. 

Bryce Holdaway
Ooh I like this one. 

Ben Kingsley
I then start paying off that car thinking that I’m paying off that portion that I took out for the car. Tax office doesn’t see it that way at all. The first $20,000 that you put in there is actually paying off the $80,000 investment debt. So this is another example of where an investment-savvy mortgage broker will separate out potentially a small amount for personal use and separate that in a different loan split for investment use. You can have multiple splits. It obviously requires a little bit more understanding and management, but ultimately it’s as simple as using your MoneySMARTS. Everything goes into that primary cap.  

Doesn’t matter if you’ve got a hundred loans under that; if one of those loans is for personal use, you’ve obviously got to pay that off. But it’ll be drawing that money from the primary account, exactly like all of the rental income you’ve got coming from all your properties will be going into that primary account. So there’s one central transactional account in which all of that money is going to be serviced from.  

Bryce Holdaway
Don’t pollute, Ben.  

Ben Kingsley
Don’t pollute, Bryce. At the end of the day, no mortgage broker should be giving tax advice. And here, we’re not giving advice, we’re just sort of saying these are the pitfalls. These are the challenges around that, so no one should be sitting here saying I heard this and I’m going to action this without actually seeking independent advice from a tax accountant. 

Bryce Holdaway
Foundational underneath that discussion Ben was cross security versus standalone, so the good thing is we were talking then about standalone options.  

Ben Kingsley
Yes. 

Bryce Holdaway
But making sure you don’t get the wrong standalone option, particularly for pollution. So great question Dean, thank you for that. Let me quickly get another one for us Ben. 

 

536 | CGT Mistakes, Busting Mortgages & More: The Top 5 Property Questions on the Internet!

Are apartments REALLY a good investment? 🏡💰 

Property vs Shares – which one builds wealth faster? 📈 

What are the smartest strategies to pay off your mortgage sooner? 💸

Folks, in today’s supercharged Q&A session, we’re answering: 

The top 5 property and finance questions on the internet!    

From the essentials you need to know about capital gains tax to understanding how banks assess your borrowing power, we’re covering the most searched (and often misunderstood!) topics in property, finance, and money management. 


Here’s what we cover…

✅ The hidden pros & cons of apartments vs houses

✅ The real battle between property & shares

✅ Mortgage hacks that actually work

✅ Capital Gains Tax explained – how to reduce it, and much more! 

Tune in now for expert insights, real strategies, and insider knowledge that could change your financial future! 


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Timestamps  

  • 0:00 – CGT Mistakes, Busting Mortgages & More: The Top 5 Property Questions on the Internet! 
  • 1:09 – Entering our 11th year and how to have YOUR questions answered instantly 
  • 4:33 – Life-changing updates coming to Moorr…  
  • 6:38 – COMING SOON: “How to Retire on $3k Per Week” 
  • 8:35 – Mindset Minute: Time is the only currency you spend without knowing your balance… 
  • 8:51 – How to support Bryce’s life-changing charity event dedicated to giving eyesight back to those in need  
  • 10:27 – Q1) Are apartments a good investment? 
  • 11:40 – Unpacking history performance  
  • 14:53 – Our tiers for property investing 
  • 15:46 – When it DOES & DOESN’T make sense 
  • 17:36 – Final Verdict  
  • 20:04 – The pros and cons of investing in apartments 
  • 21:29 – Q2) Which is better: Investment Property vs. Shares
  • 23:29 – Ask yourself THESE questions before deciding 
  • 24:30 – Key considerations for investors 
  • 25:07 – $50G vs $12G return: The answer depends on 1 key factor 
  • 28:27 – Why shares work for some!   
  • 29:29 – Final Verdict  
  • 30:10 – Q3) How to pay off your mortgage quickly? 
  • 30:23 – The key crux to slash years off your home loan!  
  • 32:14 – More practical strategies  
  • 32:38 – First-hand experience: How Ben paid down his first property 
  • 33:48 – Beware of THESE risks & misconceptions!  
  • 34:51 – Why putting money into your offset is the fastest strategy  
  • 37:25 – Your basic and advanced loan-smashing strategies  
  • 40:03 – Q4) What do you need to know about investment property & capital gains tax? 
  • 42:22 – How CGT is calculated  
  • 43:36 – Simple ways to reduce your tax bill 
  • 44:08 – Why tax planning is critical & how to consolidate your records  
  • 46:51 – Final CGT tips and professional advice  
  • 47:24 – Q5) How do lenders calculate serviceability? 
  • 47:38 – Serviceability EXPLAINED 
  • 50:19 – Why does it matter?  
  • 52:16 – What is APRA’s 3% buffer?  
  • 54:26 – What lenders really look at when calculating your serviceability 
  • 56:19 – Easy ways to improve your borrowing power 

And… 

 

TPC Gold | Lenders Mortgage Insurance (LMI): What It Is and When You Need It

In today’s bonus episode, Bryce and Ben dive into a listener’s question about the mechanics of lenders mortgage insurance (LMI).  

Find out what LMI is and how it relates to your loan-to-value ratio (LVR), as well as whether the premiums are refundable or transferable.  

Ben shares his frustration with the system but also explains how, in some cases, paying LMI can be a strategic move to unlocking more property investment opportunities.  

Tune in to hear their insights on whether you should embrace or avoid lenders mortgage insurance (LMI)! 

For the full Q&A episode, tune in here: Episode 97 | Q&A – Mechanics of LMI, Purchasing Foreclosed Property, Stretching Your Investing Budget and more 

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Transcript

Bryce Holdaway
So there you go listeners, we don’t really prep, we just come in here and riff it, but we’re very fortunate to get lots of really cool questions.  

Ben Kingsley
What are we doing?  

Bryce Holdaway
I’ve got a question from Volkswagen.  

Ben Kingsley
Bang, straight into it.  

Bryce Holdaway
Volkswagen.  

Ben Kingsley
Volkswagen.  

Bryce Holdaway
On Facebook. “Good afternoon gents, thanks for the gold that you provide. It’s both educational and inspiring. I enjoy listening to your show on my commute to and from work each day. And now that I’m fully up to date with your shows, I enjoy the footy banter, so keep it coming.” Mate, we gotta wait for footy season. 

Ben Kingsley
I know, bring it on!  

Bryce Holdaway
“I have a quick question. How would you tackle this situation? I’m 33 years old and married with two young kids with plans for number three in the future.” 

Ben Kingsley
Well, there’s one way to do it…probably invest in property and not have that third kid. Just kidding of course, children are beautiful.  

Bryce Holdaway
We’re not the family planning podcast. “I’m currently rentvesting. I have subsidized housing thanks to my career, with one investment property in Warner, north of Brisbane. (I bought this before I started to listen to your podcast). I bought off the plan and in hindsight now, armed with the information provided by your podcast and other books on investment property, I would have steered away from that investment and bought based on location. Hopefully this property will do some heavy lifting in the future.”  

Ben Kingsley
Maybe.  

Bryce Holdaway
“My question is in reference to LMI and LVR.” LMI of course is lenders mortgage insurance and LVR is loan-to-valuation ratio. “Is the LMI attached to a loan dissipated over time as your LVR approaches the 80% sweet spot or does it remain until the whole loan is paid off? And given I’ve saved up a good cash reserve, would it make sense to pay just enough to make my LVR 80%? Thanks again for your time.” Really good question about the mechanics of lenders mortgage insurance.  

Ben Kingsley
Okay, so we’ll start from the top. What is lenders mortgage insurance? Lenders mortgage insurance is an insurance policy that the banks take out against you in the event that you don’t repay them their money.  

So if you think about it in a comical sense, the insurance has knocked on the bank store one day and said, “I know you only lend to 80%, but how about we put something together, a JV together where you lend up to 90% (and in some cases back in the old days) 100% of the value of the property, and we’ll insure the risk of you doing that…but guess what, we’ll make the borrower pay for it, okay.”  

And so in some cases you can capitalise that insurance premium, which means you can add it to the loan and in other cases, depending on some lending criteria, it might cap out at say 90% or 95%. It’s very hard to get 100% lending. There are some house-and-land package companies that work in with the banks to do 100% lending, but it’s unusual. Alright, so that’s the concept. Now, so it doesn’t protect you as the borrower.  

Bryce Holdaway
What?! Come on…

Ben Kingsley
It doesn’t protect you as the borrower. It only protects the bank, but they get you to pay it. So that’s the sneakiness of it. In fact, I’m a bit angry about the amount of lenders mortgage insurance that gets paid out there because I think it is absolutely money for jam for these insurance companies.  

Bryce Holdaway
Yeah, let’s get all of our listeners to…we’ll pool our money so we can all go to capital base. Then we can become the third LMI provider in the country. 

Ben Kingsley
Wouldn’t that be good?  

Bryce Holdaway
Yeah, because you sit in the back room counting checks, don’t you?  

Ben Kingsley
Postcode protect it, and you’d knock back certain types of properties and you’d be…yeah, anyway, we’re not here to make money that way, but all right. Now the question you’re asking is how long does the premium last for? Well, this is what the insurers argue, that the premium is for the life of that loan. Okay, so it means that for the 30 years you’re protected…but you make a great point Volkswagen, in terms of coming back to when your value of your property grows beyond the loan-to-value ratio of 80%, then technically there’s really nothing that they’re insuring.

They can almost go to the bank with that cash. So that is where it becomes really frustrating because unlike car insurance and house insurance premiums, if you do choose to change lenders in terms of refinancing your car loan or whatever, you get a rebate. But these lenders mortgage insurers do not give a rebate. And it’s non-transferable, Bryce, and now I’m getting angry.  

Bryce Holdaway
You’ve got your angry voice on.  

Ben Kingsley
I’ve got my angry voice on because it should be transferable and there should be a rebate. It’s bulldust. Call it bulldust. There you go.  

Bryce Holdaway
It is a moment in time, isn’t it Ben? You’re paying a premium in a moment in time, and therefore, as you said, there’s no money back at any point. There’s no pro rata-ing. You’ve paid it, move on. So the LVR becomes irrelevant after that moment in time.  

Ben Kingsley
Correct. So let’s say you buy a 95% LVR, okay, and you pay your lenders mortgage insurance, and then you see a bank who’s got a better deal. Well, if you want to refinance them and let’s say your LVR (loan to value ratio) is 85%…which LVR is basically measured by the loan amount divided by the value of the property as a percentage. So that’s the loan amount divided by the value of property, just repeating that, just so you got that right.  

Bryce Holdaway
So a loan of $800,000 against a property worth $1,000,000 (is) 80%.  

Ben Kingsley
Correct. Okay. So the reality here is if I then say, okay, I want to refinance to another lender, but I’ve got to pay a brand new premium and I don’t get a rebate on the old premium that I’ve paid…it’s a rort. I’m calling it, it’s a rort.  

Bryce Holdaway
It’s a privilege. We just get the opportunity to pay it twice, mate. If we want to revalue it to a better opportunity, we get to pay it twice. 

Ben Kingsley
Well then obviously then you think the interest rate’s better, but ultimately once you put them all together, no, you may not be better off financially. Now one good thing about lenders mortgage insurance, and it’s got nothing to do with the insurance companies or the banks, but the ATO does recognise it as tax deductible. So effectively you can claim the lenders mortgage insurance premium over five years. So it can be written off over five years as a tax deduction.  

Bryce Holdaway
Subject to your accountant’s advice.  

Ben Kingsley
Yes, well I think that is tax policy so I don’t think we need to go there but you’re right, you’re right. We’ll protect ourselves.  

Bryce Holdaway
Exactly, so there you go, Volkswagen.  

Ben Kingsley
Volkswagen. Do you have a diesel or do you have a petrol? You might be able to get your money back on your Volkswagen.  

Bryce Holdaway
They might get a rebate there. “And given I’ve saved up a good cash reserve would it make sense to pay just enough to make my LVR 80%.” I’ve got a rule on mortgage insurance. Most people say to me…  

Ben Kingsley
Listen to this because it’s gold.  

Bryce Holdaway
We’ve said it before on the podcast: embrace it when you have to, avoid it when you can. And embrace it when you have to is largely if it means that you can control a better quality asset and the benefit outweighs the cost. Lock and load. Knock yourself out.  

Ben Kingsley
Case in point, we’re going back probably to 2010. I was able to release $110,000 by paying I think it cost me $8,000. So it cost me $8,000 to get access to $110,000. Now I still need to service all the loans and so forth, so I might not have had the equity in that property, but I thought what an opportunity this is in terms of my gearing. Obviously I’m in the accumulation phase of building out my portfolio, so at that time I’ve gone: that $110,000 could form a deposit for another property that I could buy, and so it made sense for me playing the long game to embrace it.  

Bryce Holdaway
Mate, love it. There you go, Volkswagen. Two very good concepts there, LMI and LVR. Very, very good. 

 

499 | Why Choose an Investment Savvy Broker? – Chat with Brad Fraser

To give you an inside look at the real workings of mortgage broking, we’ve brought in an incredible broker from our investment savvy team…  

Please welcome Brad Fraser! 🙌  

We’re delving deep into the heart of this industry with two compelling real-life scenarios:     

🏡 First homebuyers: This young couple doesn’t want to compromise on their dream home yet are limited in borrowing capacity. How do we solve this with no net loss?   

💼 Aspiring Property investor: A young investor wants to buy his first investment property. Why did we initially say no, and how do we solve this problem amidst rising rates?   

Plus, we unpack Brad’s money story, which follows him as he pivots from spending it all to becoming the financial guru he is today.   

It’s an episode highlighting the importance of using an investment savvy broker who takes a holistic approach to your investment journey. Tune in now! 😊   

P.S. It’s our 500th episode next week! 🎉 Tune in for an exclusive guest appearance by a world-renowned sports psychologist and get the chance to win his $499 course for free.  Be among the first to know when it goes live 👉 https://bit.ly/3Xzvots 

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

  • This is the last week to help property investors across Australia:  
    • NSW’s No-Grounds Evictions:
      • Action 1 – Complete the consumer survey against the No Grounds Termination of Residential Tenancy Agreements  
      • Action 2 – Complete PICA’s Survey on why would you evict a tenant  
    • Victoria’s changes to minimum standards:   

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Why Choose an Investment Savvy Broker?    
  • 2:15 – PICA webinar replay & have your say in legislative changes  
  • 3:51 – Mindset Minute: “Courage is not the absence of FEAR, but the triumph over it…” 
  • 4:46 – Welcome, Brad! 
  • 5:20 – Money Story: From scarcity mindsets to surf brands  
  • 11:58 – His life-changing shock at 18 years old  
  • 16:44 – Stepping stones to becoming a better saver  
  • 18:48 – The power of shared goals  
  • 19:46 – “How does money work?”  
  • 20:55 – What does the investment-savvy broker look like?  
  • 23:43 – Holistic Views vs. Product Selection  
  • 27:07 – Case Study #1: First Homebuyers   
  • 29:01 – The Problem: Reserved debts, smaller deposits & disappointments  
  • 33:55 – How we increased their borrowing capacity 
  • 37:24 – The genius behind Brad’s plan: No net loss?!  
  • 40:15 – Why it’s also about educating the client 
  • 41:05 – We didn’t use third-tier lenders; this is why. 
  • 43:04 – Case Study #2: Aspiring Property Investor  
  • 45:55 – The Problem: It wasn’t the right time to buy a property?  
  • 49:15 – Rising rates & the role of Buyer’s Agents 
  • 52:07 – The first lender isn’t your forever lender! 
  • 56:38 Why does Brad do mortgage broking?  
  • 57:16 – Ben’s meaningful moment in his broking career  
  • 59:19 – Book a free initial consultation with our team of investment savvy brokers!  

And…

  • 59:44 – Lifehack: Turn your phone into a Nokia 3315!  
  • 1:01:52 – WMPN: NSW Gov increases taxes for property investors and RBA correction 
  • 1:04:05 – 500th episode next week! 😮  

 

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