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TPC Gold | Repairs vs. Improvements: What Every Property Investor Should Know

In today’s bonus episode, Ben and tax expert Julia Hartman tackle one of the trickiest parts of property investment—tax claims.  

With a surprising statistic from the ATO revealing that 9 out of 10 property claims are incorrect, this episode sheds light on where investors often go wrong. 

Julia breaks down the key differences between repairs (which are deductible) and improvements (which are not), using practical examples like painting, tree removals, and kitchen upgrades.  

Plus, learn how to navigate insurance claims and why getting the details right can save you big during tax time. 

Listen to the full episode here 👉 2024: The Golden Year of Tax Planning 

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Knowing the Difference: Rental Property Repairs vs Improvements

Now that you know how to differentiate between property repairs and improvements, you’ll be able to handle your investment property tax claims better!  

For more tax planning tips, download our Free Fact Sheet and find out why 2024 is the golden year of tax planning. 

If all this talk of tax is doing your head in and you’re looking for an investment-savvy tax accountant who can help, head on over to www.thepropertycouch.com.au/tax 

 

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Transcript

Ben Kingsley
Now, there’s a lot of misconception (around this) and something that the ATO released talked about (how) 9 out of 10 investment property claims are incorrect. And I think a lot of it has to do potentially with how we treat money that we spend on the property. I think a lot of investors just think that “I’m running a small business” so anything that I spend on that property has some form of tax deductibility for me, but it’s not always the case. There is definitely a distinction between improvements and repairs. And so can you just share with us why that distinction is so important in terms of whether it’s claimable or not claimable, Julia?  

Julia Hartman
Yes, well you shocked me when you said 9 out of 10 because we certainly don’t experience that.  

Ben Kingsley
No, it surprised me too.  

Julia Hartman
So the only thing I can think of where it’s a bit of a gray area and inexperience might make people vulnerable, is sorting out the repairs from the improvements from the replacements in its entirety. As you know, we have a particular worksheet that eliminates that. But if in some cases they may bring in to their accountant the whole bundle of receipts and say, yeah, I did the repairs, here you are. And they might just be put in. Or some people prepare a spreadsheet for their accountant and just list it as repairs. They say: That’s it, you know, trust me. So I can’t imagine anything other than that, but somewhere in there, the ATO is finding one little receipt or one receipt’s gone missing.  

But anyway, to explain the difference. So a repair, for most people…and this is the classic one, people say, “Oh but it needed repairing to bring it back to what it was when it was brand new”. But that’s not a repair. It’s only when you bring it up back to the condition it was in when you bought it. So if it needed painting when you bought it, that’s an improvement if you paint. So you can’t claim that as a tax deduction. Just pop that in your depreciation schedule and write it off over 40 years.  

But anyway, so did it improve the property beyond what condition it was in when you bought it? Then no, you don’t get a tax deduction for the thing. Now, if it was your home before…when you bought it and then later it needed painting but you went and rented it out for a couple of years and finally you painted it, well, just because it became necessary to do the painting in the year you lived there, it doesn’t matter. You owned it before it became necessary to paint it. So as long as it’s rented the whole year you paint it, you get the deduction for that painting.  

Okay, another thing is to use materials that are better than what was originally there, such as replacing a tin roof with tiles and stuff like that. But you are allowed to use (that) you wouldn’t go try to find old copper pipes instead of using PVC or something like that. You are allowed to use modern materials; you can’t improve it too much beyond that…just what the modern equivalent is. 

So the next one is another example of a tree; removing a tree. That’s a good example of a repair, isn’t it? So why are you removing it? If you are removing it because the leaves are clogging up the gutters, then no. It’s an improvement if the leaves have always clogged up the gutters, you’re improving it by removing the tree. If during the time of ownership, the roots got into the pipes, then you’re removing it as a repair. But if the roots were already in the pipes before you bought it, it’s an improvement to remove the tree.  

And so it goes on okay. But there’s some weird stories. And these are ATO rulings where they’ve said to remove the carpets and polish the existing floorboards was considered a deductible repair. Yet underpinning due to subsidence was considered an improvement. Yeah, go figure.  

Ben Kingsley
I’ll probably come back to what the house subsiding before you bought it and hence that continuation. The other one that’s also really important that you also like to share is the one about some part of the original component or structure being left behind. Can you talk to that story?  

Julia Hartman
Right, well, this is the issue about replacement in its entirety. So we’ve got to make sure it’s a repair, not an improvement, and it’s not a replacement in its entirety. So to replace something in its entirety. Yes, there’s nothing left of the original. You’ve got to have the original still there to have to repair it. So the walls of the house are part of the entirety of the building. So if you replace the whole roof, that’s all right. That’s a repair, assuming everything else. It’s not a replacement in its entirety because there’s no way that roof could exist without the walls to hold it up. Okay.  

Ben Kingsley
Makes sense.  

Julia Hartman
So the house is the entirety. But kitchen; the kitchen is an entirety in itself. You replace the whole kitchen, then it’s not a repair. And if you took the cupboard doors off the kitchen and put modern ones on, that’s a repair. You like that one, don’t you?  

Ben Kingsley
No, I do like those because I’ve seen both done and I’ve got a situation with one particular property at the moment where we’ve had a lot of hidden water get into the back and it’s rotted the sort of back parts of the frame and the cabinetry in the kitchen. So we’re going to have to obviously do an insurance claim and potentially to make it safe and for quiet enjoyment, we’re probably gonna have to rip the kitchen out and put a whole new kitchen in as an example because of that water damage that’s sort of been hidden from eyesight. But that’s an example where it’s obviously…I’m changing the whole kitchen unit. Is that a repair or a replacement because I’ve had water damage in that property?  

Julia Hartman
Well, you’re going to get an insurance claim you told me.  

Ben Kingsley
Yes, we’re hoping to get an insurance cut.  

Julia Hartman
So you’re going to undertake the repair.  

Ben Kingsley
That’s right. We’re not paying for it. It’s not a cost.  

Julia Hartman
Yeah. Well, that’s the trouble. If you’re replacing the whole kitchen, the insurance company is going to be paying for it. Get the insurance company to pay for the replacement. Don’t give you the cash because then you’ve got the problem. Right. So you don’t have to split hairs over this, just say to the insurance company: Go right ahead, get your tradies in, do what you’re going to do.  

Ben Kingsley
Yeap. 

Julia Hartman
Right. But also if you’re not going to do all of the repairs, you get the cash from the insurance company. And if they are repairs, like you’re saying about the boards at the back and that, that you’ve got to replace you say, I’ll claim a deduction of $10,000 for doing that. I’ve got $40,000 from the insurance company. I have to include as income only $10,000 to offset that because it’s recouped. The other $30,000 that I haven’t spent just comes off my cost base. So basically you’ve got the money sitting in your favourite place, the offset account instead.  

Ben Kingsley
Very nice. And in terms of the interest excess, sorry, the insurance excess, is that deductible if I have to pay an excess?  

Julia Hartman
Yes, if they’re going to replace it, you’d have to pay it. But when it comes to an insurance payout, they normally reduce what they give you by that. But yes, going back to the idea of getting them to replace the kitchen, yes, you would deduct the excess.  

Ben Kingsley
Okay, so a couple of ideas there that we’ve seen come out. Hope you liked that short TPC Gold, folks. I’ve always enjoyed chatting with Julia. By the way, the tax return deadline is 31st October, so get on it ASAP. If you have a refund, best to do your tax return soon, so any refunds can go straight into your offset account. But if you choose to engage a registered tax agent, you may be eligible for an extended tax return deadline. If you’re looking for one, go to www.thepropertycouch.com.au/tax. And of course, anything we’ve said on this podcast is general information only. But until next week…knowledge is empowering, but only if you act on it. 

 

Bonusisode with Julia – Tax Planning Tips to Maximise your Returns (Part Two)

Folks we’re back to finish what we started… 

In last week’s Bonusisode we featured Part One of Tax Planning Tips to Maximise your Returns and now, we’re back to give you the rest of the gold!  

We’ll be unpacking… 

  • How to claim travel expenses related to work (especially if you’re a rental owner!)  
  • Is it possible to successfully act as your own accountant and claim travel expenses for properties? Hint: you need to prove this ONE thing to be eligible…
  • The 2 key ways to keep a travel record (Plus Ben gives a life hack which makes recording 100% easier!)   
  • How to determine if you’re eligible for Building Depreciation + when should you get a Tax Depreciation Schedule?!  
  • What’s included when claiming plant and equipment depreciation!? 

Julia also shares an extremely handy tax tip (Just see how excited it makes Ben!)  for those who’ve missed out on creating a property depreciation schedule… 

Spoiler: You may be able to go back and AMEND past tax returns to gain access to these benefits! 

And lots more! So before you get start lodging any tax returns for 2022, listen to this first folks!  

p.s. If you are looking for an experienced and qualified tax accountant, you can reach out to us here 👉 https://thepropertycouch.com.au/tax

Free Stuff Mentioned…

 

Here’s some of the gold we cover… 

  • 1:54 – The 2 ways to keep a travel record  
  • 4:40 – Which record is best for you??  
  • 5:10 – We’re setting THIS common myth straight… 
  • 6:25 – Deducting taxes from travel related to work – what is claimable?!  
  • 8:27 – Can Realtors claim travel expenses?  
  • 9:15 – Defining normal workplaces and being itinerate  
  • 12:15 – Essential rules for transporting others  
  • 13:09 – Recap! (Plus, how to make recording your logbook easier!)  
  • 14:50 – When is TOO LATE to start a logbook?  
  • 16:19 – Successful & unsuccessful examples of claiming travel expenses for Rental Properties!  
  • 19:40 – Should you get an accountant or DIY with a private ruling?  
  • 20:50 – The 3 Key Takeaways…  
  • 25:13 – Is your property eligible for Building Depreciation?  
  • 28:10 – Should you get a Tax Depreciation Schedule?! 
  • 30:20 – The who, what, when and why of SCRAPPING   
  • 32:44 – Plant and Equipment Depreciation: What’s included??  
  • 36:18 – When should you get a depreciation schedule?  
  • 39:25 – Missed out on a schedule? Listen to this for a HOT tip!  
  • 42:50 – So.much.free.stuff!!  

 

351 | Why The Cost Of A Brick Can Get You More Cash Back! – Chat with Bradley Beer

Did you know that the BRICKS on your investment property actually influence the amount of tax depreciation you can claim?

… Wait, what!?!

Yep. Here to unfold the tax secrets only Quantity Surveyors know about is none other than Bradley Beer, CEO of BMT Tax, the largest and most trusted quantity surveying firm in the country.

Basically, Brad is going to walk you through the little-known legalities of depreciation – and how much you can really claim when the totality (and history!) of your investment property is considered. Handy hint: a LOT of investors are leaving money on the table when it comes to this!

Co-hosting today’s episode as part of our AweGuest Series, Brad Beer is THE expert you want to hear from when it comes to tax depreciation claims – to give you an idea, his company has completed almost 750,000 depreciation schedules for property investors… so let’s just say he knows more than the “ins and outs” of how to maximise the cash you can get back while still staying on the right side of the law!

A bit more about today’s co-host: Aside from working with BMT Tax Depreciation since 1998, Bradley Beer is also a member of the Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors, the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors and the Auctioneers and Valuers Association of Australia, which means he contributes to the latest information within the quantity surveying and the property industry in Australia. His knowledge as both a quantity surveyor AND property investor means he is a highly sought-after speaker and regularly features in national events, conferences and the media to share his knowledge with the wider property investment community.

 

So. WHY can the cost of a brick get you more cash back???

Tune in now to find out, folks!

 

Free Stuff Mentioned

Hust a quick update on our NEW TAX SERVICE as well folks, the response rate had been really good! So Bryce has asked our Tax Accountants to free up their calendar and move things around so that we can help more of The Property Couch Community! So if you are on the hunt for a specialised property tax accountant, simple fill in the form below and we’ll get in touch with you very soon. 😉

 

10 Mission-Critical Answers You’ll Get…

  1. WHAT is property tax depreciation?
  2. WHY is it important for investors?
  3. WHO is a quantity surveyor and why do they get involved in providing depreciation schedules?
  4. … But doesn’t an accountant look after depreciation!?!
  5. Is it worth getting a depreciation schedule for OLDER properties?
  6. HOW does depreciation work when renovating?
  7. WHEN should an investor be thinking about property depreciation?
  8. What can an investor do if they have been missing out on depreciation deductions?
    • Can they go back and get and missed deductions?
  9. How can an investor find out if getting a depreciation schedule completed will be WORTH IT?
  10. What is involved in preparing a tax depreciation schedule?

 

 

The Listener Questions We Answer

Question from Sharon Paterson on “Improvement or Repair” For A Leaking Hot Water Service

Hi Bryce and Ben, my name is Sharon, and I’ve been listening to your podcasts now for quite a few years and I love listening to them every week. My question is probably for Julia or for Brad –it’s in relation to replacing a hot water service. It was leaking so it had to be replaced, it wasn’t an improvement, and because the cost was nearly $1800, I am just wondering if that can be written off against my tax or do I have to depreciate it?

 

Question from Mick on “Improvement or Repair” For Replacing Cracked Tiles On Roof

Hi Brad, just a quick tax depreciation question from me. We have an investment property that’s getting on age a little bit now and has a concrete tile roof. Some of the tiles on this roof are cracked and need to be replaced, charge for facing is they are beyond repair and

we’re finding it difficult to source tiles to replace them with. Say the recommendation from our builder is to reroof the house with Colorbond… can we claim this as capital works or can we claim it as a repair? We’re hoping we can claim this as a repair because we’ve been told that the roof is not replaceable. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers!

 

 

Question from Leonard on How To Choose A Quantity Surveyor

Hi my name is Leonard and I’ve got a question for Brad Beer. Hi Brad, how should investors go about choosing a quantity surveyor to work with? What can a good quantity surveyor do that a not so good one can’t? And if depreciation values are determined by a set of rules, isn’t the outcome going to be the same anyway regardless of who we work with? Is it just a matter of picking who provides the best price? Thank you very much and looking forward to your response.

 

 

Question from Leonard on Turning PPR Into A Rental

Hello everyone, my name is Leonard and I have a depreciation question for Brad here. We have a PPR which we have lived in for three years. We are the first occupiers as we

bought it new. Next year, on the 4th year, we will move out and turn our PPR into a rental property. I have 2 questions.

First, how many years of depreciation deductions do we have remaining on the property? Will it be 40 years starting from the time it became a rental? Or 37 years as the depreciation had already commenced when we lived in the property but it was just not claimable as a tax deduction?

Second question: will we still able to claim depreciation on the fixtures and fittings because the property is rented out for the first time?

Thank you.

 

Question from Kim on Overcapitalising?

Hi this is a question for Bradley Beer. Bradley, I wanna know, I often hear people overcapitalising on their investment or even their home property— is there a general rule you think clients should stay with for insuring that they don’t fall into this trap of overcapitalising? Thank you!

 

 

 

151 | Is Bitcoin a good investment and what are the Final Budget Changes on Tax Depreciation?

There are so many things to be excited about in this week’s episode!!!

First of all, PICA IS FINALLY UP! Remember a few weeks back (Sydney expo) when Ben gave you a sneak peek at setting up a not-for-profit association for property investors by property investors? Well, it’s official now … and it’s time to unite and make our voices heard. It’s time we take action to ensure our property investments are protected, now and into the future. So make sure you check it out! www.pica.asn.au

(Membership is only $5 a year or $20 for 5 years! Find out more about PICA’s Membership here.)

 

Following on from this … the most drastic change impacting property investors significantly is the recent depreciation changes. On this year’s Budget Night, 7:30 pm AEST on the 9th of May 2017, the Government proposed quite some changes to the tax depreciation schedule. We’ve talked about these changes before with Bradley Beer, CEO of BMT Tax Depreciation back in Episode 117.

Since then, the Government has finalised on some of these changes and has decided that some of the proposed changes will not go ahead after all. But what are the finalised depreciation changes? That’s why we’ve invited Brad back into the studio today for a quick update!

 

And finally… Bitcoin.

It’s the No.1 trending search word at the moment.

So, are we for or against it???

Let’s talk.

So, what are you in for?

  • What depreciation changes did the Government finally decide on?
  • Who will be affected and who WILL NOT be affected?
  • What happens if you purchase an existing property after the 9th of May?
  • Will you be able to claim tax depreciation now, and is it still worth get a tax depreciation schedule done?
  • Are commercial properties affected by this change?
  • How can your accountant help with your claim?
  • What’s the definition of “Substantial renovation” in this new ruling?
  • Will Capital Gains Tax be affected?

and of course, on Bitcoin…

  • What is Bitcoin to start with, and why is it so trendy now?
  • Are there other cryptocurrencies out there?
  • Can they be used as a valid currency?
  • Will this last?

 

Don’t forget the Free Resources mentioned:

  • Brad’s previous appearance on the Couch — Episode 117
  • Ben’s Did You Know Tips can be found here.
  • Access to PICA (Property Investors Council of Australia) — Subscribe here
  • BMT Tax Depreciation Application Form – Fill in the form below to download or click here

 

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