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TPC Gold | How We Teach Our Kids About Money—Saving, Spending & More!

This snippet is from one of our previous episodes: Money Lessons for Kids. 

Teaching kids about money can feel overwhelming, but the key is starting early, keeping it simple, and making it part of everyday life. 

In this TPC Gold soundbite, we’re sharing how we teach our own kids about money—from saving and spending to understanding opportunity cost and financial priorities. 

Here’s what we cover: 

👶 Teaching Preschoolers – How to introduce the idea that money doesn’t just “appear” and why role-playing with play money (or even Monopoly!) can be a fun way to start.
🏫 Primary School & Opportunity Cost – When kids start understanding numbers, it’s time to introduce trade-offs: “Do you want to spend $25 at the cinema or go kick the footy for free?”
🛍 Comparing Prices & Making Choices – Real-life exercises like shopping around for gifts or choosing between streaming subscriptions can help kids make smarter money decisions.
💰 Aligning as Parents – Why consistency between partners is crucial when setting money rules and expectations for kids. 

Money habits start young, and the best way to set your kids up for success is to lead by example and have open conversations about money.  

Want More Resources to Help Teach Your Kids About Money?

📖 Read Make Money Simple Again – Our step-by-step guide helps parents manage their own money better, so they can pass down smart financial habits to their kids. 

💡 Explore ASIC’s MoneySmart Resources – The MoneySmart website has great tools and tips for teaching kids about money at every age.  

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Transcript

Bryce Holdaway
Yeah, so I’m sure we’ve got many, many parents listening to this and some will agree with what we just said and some will disagree…which is fine. The idea here is just to stimulate some discussion and hopefully give you guys some ideas. But number one, start young. Number two, talk about invisible money. And then number three, look for opportunities where you can have conversations around money, where (even if) you just don’t even think that now is a good time, but they’re watching and they’re absorbing, and it might be a good opportunity.  

So Ben, I guess the way that ASIC was suggesting that you introduce this is to do it by age group, right? So what do you talk about when kids are at preschool age? What do you talk (about) when kids are at school age? And then how do you sort of advance them along at high school? And I thought that breaking that up was pretty good. So, because I’ve got one at preschool, one at school. I certainly don’t have any in high school yet; that’ll come at some stage.  

Ben Kingsley
Yes, it will.  

Bryce Holdaway
So in terms of preschool, it was about introducing them that you need money to buy things. It doesn’t just turn up. There is some form of exchange happening, and largely an invisible exchange. But you know there’s Monopoly. The kids have got play money. You can actually role play and teach them as early as you can. And as Paul Clitheroe said last week, if you’re at school, if you’re counting anyway, why don’t you talk about dollars and cents rather than just numbers. So bring it in where you can.  

Ben Kingsley
The dollars and cents, you trade time for money. They start to understand, okay, I’m going off to preschool and I trade my time for learning. Mum and Dad go off to work to trade time for money. If they can understand that concept, then the flow on of that is, well, what’s the value of that time? And the fact that certain people trade their time for higher or lower levels of money. So don’t try and introduce that too youn;, they won’t get it. If they can’t understand the different values of amounts of counting, then start simple. You just wanna say: Mummy and Daddy go off and they spend time there to make money and that money allows us to buy things.  

Bryce Holdaway
And spend on things that we choose to. I think you just hit the nail on the head. Don’t make it too complex. Make it simple. But understand there’s a flow, there’s an exchange, there is a trade of time for money in return for something that then the parents have an opportunity to decide where they want to prioritise their money going.  

Ben Kingsley
And that’s a good segue into obviously the primary school age, where they’re developing their skill sets around multiplication and division, then you can start to sort of talk more complex. And that’s probably the opportunity cost conversation. So, Harry, if I’ve got $100 and your new basketball runners are gonna cost me $120, how much more do we need to find for us to be able to buy your runners for you? Those types of things are going to be part of that story. And then, Harry this weekend we’ve got free, I’m gonna spend an afternoon with you, where do you wanna go? Do you wanna go to the cinema? Okay, so the cinema’s your choice. Do you wanna go there?  

That’s gonna cost us probably about $25 for you to go to the cinema. Do you wanna use that money or do you wanna just go and kick the footy down the park or shoot some hoops down at the basketball stadium or something along those lines, which doesn’t have a cost, and then you can start to sort of see what that story lives.  

Bryce Holdaway
Comparing and shopping around, we’ve actually done this exercise with Jack where we said what do want for Christmas and they gave us a list. And then it was a PlayStation versus a Nintendo Switch. So we asked him to go and get on the iPad and compare prices and compare features and then do a pros and cons for each. So he actually enjoyed it.  

Ben Kingsley
And this is the time when husband and wife need to be aligned.  

Bryce Holdaway
Or partner and partner.  

Ben Kingsley
Or partner and partner, good point. Because this is where money conversations go awry and we’re seeing a bit of that in terms of some of the feedback we’re getting from the people using the platform, because we ask them a little questionnaire when they come onto the Facebook group as well and we’re noticing the trend of disalignment through partner and partner. And that happens in our household too with the living and lifestyle budget.  

Bryce Holdaway
My hand’s up too. 

Ben Kingsley
It’s like okay, so what’s a perfect example right now? So I thought we had enough lights and I thought we had enough Christmas decorations. I think 20 or 30 items is enough, that gets stored into a couple of boxes, but because we’ve now got an upstairs and a downstairs, apparently we needed some lights upstairs. So that’s a good example of, right, okay, we’ve got some lights upstairs now. Now where does that come out of the budget? 

Bryce Holdaway
That’s the hidden cost of renovating Ben…Christmas lights. 

Ben Kingsley
And that wasn’t out of my provisional jar. You can’t sort of move a little bit of money. But coming back to the kids’ story, is if you don’t have alignment between the parents in terms of the rules that we’re setting up, then this is gonna be difficult, right? Because as parents, we want to see the joy in our children’s face. But in some cases, some of that joy is short-lived in the sense of buying them things as opposed to giving them experiences. And I for one, that is a pain point for me in the household.  

Bryce Holdaway
I can see it in your face as you’re talking about it.  

Ben Kingsley
I’m just being careful in terms of how I talk about it because I get it, right? I mean, I’m someone who’s not at home as much as other people are. I run a business; I work probably eight to late most days. On the weekends, I’m there, but it’s just important. So I’m guilty of that time work balance in terms of what I’m doing, but I love what I do, so that’s the trade-off for me. Everyone says, you work a lot. You think this is work, but this is my passion, it’s my purpose, it’s what I wanna do, so I work. My life and my children work around that, and I make sure I have enough time for them.

But on the other hand, Jane’s passion and purpose is making sure those kids are wonderfully organised and good mannered and have morals and are adding to society. So there’s a combination there. But I get it, she’s had a tough day or they’re not going well or you know, there’s an ice cream after school or so forth. I don’t want that ice cream after school to be a norm. I want it to be, well, you were great at school today. That was great. I was really proud with what the teacher told me about, so let’s go and get an ice cream. But it is that challenge of, okay we’re out, the kids are screaming, I needed to occupy them whilst I could go and do some shopping or whatever. So you know, there’s a quick little gift, and that for me is like, it’s a quick win. I’m just putting it out there. I’m not telling you how to…I’m certainly no sort of behavioural expert around raising children. My God, I’d be getting an F probably for that myself. But I would say that that’s where the friction in our household was when I was growing up and it didn’t stop right through.

So if you can get on the same page in terms of teaching each other about where you’re coming from with your money plans and what it means for you in the future, that’s the big story here. Because I think if my dad was better at telling my mum: this is what our life is gonna look like into the future, if we do this better here now and make some sacrifice and delay gratification, mum might go: oh I get it. Whereas dad just probably passed on by saying, yeah, look, it’s for our future, we’re gonna retire early. And in some cases, a lot of people can’t see that future.  

Bryce Holdaway
That’s a good message about buy-in. There’s gotta be buy-in by all parties.  

Ben Kingsley
Yeah, absolutely. 

Bryce Holdaway
Hey, a couple of things around comparing prices. I use an opportunity since we have Netflix, Ben. So when the boys can’t find a movie on Netflix and they want to do it on Apple TV, that’s an opportunity that I use: where Netflix, anything you want to watch on that comes all-encompassing, whereas if I have to go on Apple TV, I have to pay more to do that. And that’s actually been something that’s landed for them. And I’ve noticed their behaviour is changing where they request less. Now, don’t get me wrong. We still watch movies from Apple TV and we pay for them, but the frequency has been diminished now that they know that the value that we provide is in that monthly package.  

Ben Kingsley
Does that money come out of their pocket money or does that come out of the family budget for you?  

Bryce Holdaway
It comes out of the family budget.  

Ben Kingsley
Oh, okay. Whereas I would probably say: you want that and that’s your choice. I’d take it out of their pocket money. 

Bryce Holdaway
Oh you mean paying for the movie for the kids? No, I haven’t actually done that. That’s a nice thing that you do. Well done.  

 

168 | Q & A on What % of your Income should you Spend, Borderless Investing and Smart Money Management Tips

It’s our favourite day of the month folks… Q & A Day!!!

And we’re covering quite a bit in a short & sweet amount of time today— including AN EXCLUSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT for our Couch listeners!!! (As it so happens, this was dropped with, “Yeah, go on, let’s tell ‘em” and a nod of the head… so an absolute scoop.)

Not only that, but also we answer 3 solid questions, thanks to the legends who leave us a SpeakPipe voicemail message (remember: we prioritise your Q if you do this too)!

But back to today’s episode — if you want to know what we think of investing in Hobart, and down in good ol’ Tassy in general (it’s been getting a bit of attention from a fair few property investors), OR you want to find out if now’s the time to invest in Perth … tune in.

But 100% TUNE IN if you’re keen to get on top of your Money SMARTS — we give you a rough rule of thumb for the amount of income you should allocate to your spending habits ie. How much you should spend on Bills, Living and Lifestyle and your Loan/s!!

 

The Q’s we’re answering are:

 

Question about investing in Perth vs Melbourne from David:

Good morning Ben, Bryce & The Stig,

I’m a keen Property Couch listener and thank you for your time generously sharing all your knowledge — it’s much appreciated. Just about myself, specifically: I’m a property investor with 3 properties — 2 in Perth, one in Brisbane. I’m a medical specialist with a good income and I’m looking to go again. I have a 900K pre-approval and looking at either Perth or Melbourne through a Buyers Agent. Clearly the Buyers Agent have biases… the Perth guy things Melbourne is a terrible place to Invest and the Melbourne guy thinks Perth is a terrible place to invest. If you had 900K, you wanted to go now and are a Buy and Hold investor that lines up with your ideas around a good quality growth asset, what would you do?
Thanks very much & come on the Dockers!

 

Question about Money Management Habits from Nerida:

What percentage of my income should be allocated to living and lifestyle account, primary account and payments account?

 

Question about investing in Tasmania from Stuart:

Hey guys, I just wanted to get your opinion on whether you’re focusing your attention on Tasmania? The reason for that question is I was just on a work trip to Tasmania last week, and there was a lot of commentary on the radio about shortage of supply in rental accommodation; even talk of people living in tents. I didn’t really get full across it … but something to do with legislation taking a long time to release land or planning approvals taking a long time, so bureaucracy essentially. I just wondered if any of this shortage of supply means your Buyers Agents were looking a little more closely at Tasmania, certainly on Hobart … I’m not sure whether somewhere like Launceston comes into that. But yeah, really interested in your take on what’s going on in Tasmania at the moment, especially people looking to make an investment entry sub- $500,000 as places like Melbourne and Syd make that harder to achieve. Interested on your opinion. Thanks very much!

 

P.S. The webinar we mention:

Webinar: Property Hotspots & How To Find Them: CLICK HERE to Watch

 

158 | Cut The Noise: How to Master Your Mindset with Chris Helder

That’s right, folks!

Back by popular demand, we have Chris Helder on The Couch… with his brand new (it’s only been out a week) book, Cut The Noise!!

We first heard Chris’ power of mindset and “Useful Belief” in Episode 113 | Why Positive Thinking Doesn’t Work and in Bryce’s email shoutout, many of you mentioned you’d benefit from having Chris back on…

Boy, are we glad you did!

For those who missed the episode or need a refresher, Chris Helder is a certified practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming, public speaker, and author of Cut The Noise, Useful Belief and The Ultimate Book of Influence. He’s one of the most sought after speakers and his message is seriously impactful (and useful).

Today, he’s talking about: Better Results, Less Guilt.

Why? We’re bombarded by “news” every. single. day.

Media. Social Media. Marketing. Almost everywhere we look…

So, how do we cut the noise?

You’ll get answers to:

And stay around till Ben’s Did You Know too! There are some interesting discussions around the recent volatility in the stock exchange 😉

P.S. You can purchase all of Chris Helder’s books via his website: https://chrishelder.com.au/books/

P.P.S. Looking for Brené Brown’s Ted Talk on the Power of Vulnerability? Watch it here.

Want regular updates and exclusive freebies? Join our tribe when you download this cheatsheet of our MoneySMARTS System.

 

157 | 7 Reasons Why Investors Should Think Like Ants

Folks … we’ve gone a bit creative on today’s episode!!

We want you to think, act and do like …. ants!

Yep. We really do mean those teeny tiny insects…. who would have thought ants would come up in a property investing podcast? But before you ask yourself, “Have we left our marbles somewhere?”, we solemnly swear we’ve got a reason!

Well, 7 actually.

And we reckon you can take something away from today’s crafty, critter-fueled episode … especially if you’re in need a bit of a pick-me-up in the mindset department!
So, before we give you the low down on today’s episode, let’s get to the real talk: The proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act.

Yep, it’s causing a bit of a stir after a few disgruntled tenants have had their say ….but it’s now time to have ours. Because these reforms WILL have negative impacts on landlords. Some of the proposed changes include:

  • Allowing tenants to make non-structural modifications to rental properties, which may include repainting an entire property, installing hooks for picture frames, concreting the backyard or reconfiguring built in robes
  • Removal of the landlord’s rights to consent to, or refuse, pets
  • Changes to notice periods around ending a lease, removing the ability for a landlord to serve a 120 Day Notice to Vacate for ‘No Specified Reason’, and removing the option to serve a 60 or 90 Day Notice to Vacate for ‘End of Fixed-term tenancy’ after the initial first term
  • Capping bonds at one month’s rent where the rent is less than $760 per week. This reform will also apply rent that is paid in advance.

We get that a hook in the wall is one thing.. but concreting a backyard, or painting the walls in lime green, is an entirely different thing. These are our assets, and shouldn’t we have the voice to protect them?

So, The Real Estate Institute of Victoria (REIV) released an online petition calling on the Andrews’ Government to change these proposed reforms to Victoria’s rental laws. We want fairness for both sides.

 

They need 20,000 signed petitions are needed by 6th February 2018.

So, if you feel passionate about this and want to make sure your landlord rights remain, you can sign the petition here.

 

 

BUT BACK TO THE ANTS & TODAY’S EPISODE….

Did you know that ants can carry 50 times the weight of their body weight?!

Impressive, huh?

This all comes into our 7 reasons why investors should think like ants because:

  1. Ants aren’t intimidated by their workload.

We’ll tell you how this all fits in with property investing, as well as:

 

Enjoy the episode, folks!
Please let us know what you think of today’s episode! (Be honest.)

155 | Think you know your A.B.C.D — How to Action The Four Pillars of Mastery in 2018!

It’s the day in our week we most look forward to… Happy Podcast Day, folks!

And, you betcha: this episode is ESSENTIAL!

Why?

If you’re a regular listener of the show (legend), you know that we go on and on about making sure you head back to our earliest episodes (pre-studio & pre-“professional podcast hosts”), because the information we shared in our glory days is vital. It’s foundational. It’s absolutely the name-of-the-game in property investing!

That’s why today we’re revisiting The Four Pillars of Mastery….. the ABCD of Property Investing. Because now, more than ever, they are going to determine the success of your property portfolio.

What are they again? (Click the link for their full episode).

ABCD. Memorise them. Make sure you’re intimate with every detail and action them in 2018.

 

Before we explain how you can achieve all this, we want to let you know that if you missed our Throwback Thursday this morning — either you haven’t checked your inbox yet or are yet to register for our free stuff — we gave you Dr Danika Wright’s slides, Controlling the housing asset bubble: Affordability, financial stability and regulation, which she presented at the Affordability Conference  late last year. So, if you’re interested in The Housing Bubble Debate or Supply and Demand, we suggest you check it out. You can access it here.

(And, remember: $5 is all you need to become a PICA Member!)

 

Right, what’s the deal with today’s episode?

  • What’s the latest with the negative gearing debate?
  • How can Ben’s latest acronym — SACI — influence your cash flow?
  • What is “open banking”, and how can changes in technology influence your cash flow?
  • What is the biggest risk with your cash flow?
  • What are the four categories of cost?
  • Conversational Commerce: Watch this space!
  • Is equity enough to land you a loan?
  • How do you get around the APRA lending changes?
  • Why do you need to have a borrowing strategy?
  • Looking towards the future, are there consequences of going P & I?
  • We’ll say it again: investment stock vs investment grade
  • What are fundamentals of asset selection?
  • What does defence protect?
  • What do you need to know about insurance that’s REALLY important?

 

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