359 | Locked Down & Locked Out: Buying Property In A Shutdown State! – Chat with Leah Calnan

Is property sliding under the pressure of continual lockdowns?!

Folks, it’s no surprise that Victoria’s extended lockdowns (and indeed lockdowns happening right across the country) are having unintended consequences to property buyers, sellers AND renters.

With Melbourne spending more days in lockdown than ANYWHERE else in the world, it begs the question: How can you buy property in a Shutdown State?!

Here to unpack all this, as well as the Winners & Losers of legislation changes, is returning guest Leah Calnan, President of Real Estate Institute of Victoria (REIV). Leah has served as REIV President since October 2019 and during this time has seen SIGNIFICANT disruptions and changes to the Victorian property market and Tenancy Act. She has over 24 years’ experience in property management, is the sole Director of Metro Property Management and, of course, is considered one of the industry’s most dedicated, accomplished and senior Property Management practitioners in the country.

Leah is about to give you a behind the scenes look at the stark reality of a property market Locked Down & Locked Out, including the tangible impact this has on property investors, in conjunction with the “VCAT Mess” that’s currently unfolding here in Victoria.

So, is it all doom and gloom? Is it simply Too Much For Too Long for Victorian investors? Is “The Great VIC Exit” fast-approaching?!

Listen now to learn How To Buy Property in a Shutdown State & stay informed of the impact current lockdowns are having on the broader property market.


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Here’s What We Cover…

  • 02:13 – FYI: The dark spot on Ben’s forehead…
  • 04:46 – What do you think about this Mindset Minute?!
  • 06:50 – Meet Leah.
  • 07:32 – The Controversial Question we just had to ask!
  • 10:09 – Leah’s first property & money management story…
  • 16:08 – Money Advice for teenagers!
  • 17:14 – Some of the ‘highlights’ as REIV President…
  • 19:15 – Winners & Losers: Legislation Changes!
  • 20:01 – Will these Unintended Consequences further drive investors out of Vic?
  • 21:43 – Which legislation would Leah most like to repeal?!
  • 23:33 – The VCAT MESS!!
  • 26:16 – Have landlords cracked down on the type of tenant they get?
  • 27:42 – Has the legislation change lead to longer first term tenancies?
  • 29:00 – Locked Down & Locked Out!
  • 31:13 – One of the biggest challenges with Victorian lockdowns…
  • 34:09 – What HAS opened up again for buyers?
  • 38:32 – How agents keep potential buyers safe…
  • 40:16 – Can you inspect properties in regional Vic if you live in Melbourne?
  • 42:12 – Is there a “Super Saturday” coming between now and Christmas?
  • 45:53 – The Best Property Management Tips!
  • 48:30 – Why You Should NOT Self-Manage Your Property!
  • 53:28 – How to measure your wealth!
  • 55:25 – What’s Making Property News!?!
  • 55:38 The Scalpel Has Landed: Macroprudential Change Is HERE!



332 | New Laws To Sting Landlords! – Chat with Hayley Mitchell

Rental Reform is here. And with this comes quite the ‘sting’ for landlords. So we want to make sure our community – in particular those who already own an investment property and also folks who are considering an investment property now or in future – know what to do to prepare for these new laws.

Here’s the deal…

As of March 29th 2021, there have been 132 rental rule changes here in Victoria. And while these laws have NOT (and perhaps won’t) make their way into other states and territories across the county, we recommend all our listeners to tune in to this episode.

Yes… these are Big Changes. And with them come consequences… BOTH to landlords AND tenants. Both Great and Not-So-Great…

At the end of the day… this is Brand New Policy and with that comes new learning and course-correcting along the way. With our advocacy work through PICA, we will continue to advocate for property investors and make sure our collective voice is heard. So, please know that what we are talking about today might not always be the case… and, for the record… we are fully on board with the safety precautions in place for our investment properties. What we struggle with is policy that is short-sighted and regulated down to the 5% of people who are doing the wrong thing.

Here to help us unpack this New Legislation is Hayley Mitchell, Director of Geelong Property Managers and Director and Trainer of Mitchell PT, which provides training and consulting in the property management industry. She is a fully licensed Real Estate Agent and has worked in property management since 1999… and she knows her stuff when it comes to legislation change & how to best prepare landlords for New Policy!


Yep. We spoke with Hayley WAY back in Episode 249 when these proposed changes were on the horizon… but now that they are HERE, what do us property investors need to know???

And, most critically, Are these Rental Rules as “Fair” as they appear to be?

Listen now to find out – VERY important episode folks!


A Key Message to those who have invested or are looking to invest in Victoria…

Yes – we’re not super happy about all of these new laws, either! But please remember the fundamentals and what attracts people to this State (and hence increases the demand for property!) – we are playing The Long Game here. What might “sting” a bit now needs to be put into context of a 20/30/40-year decision. So, Keep Calm, do your numbers and reach out to your property manager on the best way to navigate these changes.


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What’s Covered In The Episode….

  • 02:05 – Start & Build Winners!
  • 03:57 – How to get LocationScore for less!
  • 05:12 – April Fools Pranks!
  • 06:32 – How to spur people on to success
  • 09:05 – Meet Hayley…
  • 10:05 – What was life like as a property manager during COVID-19?
  • 12:34 – They DONT have a copy of the written legislation yet!?!
  • 14:43 – What are the most significant changes?
  • 15:26 – Who is going pay for these changes?
  • 16:16 – What is going to happen to rents as a result?
  • 17:40 – What will happen tenants after lower-priced rents??
  • 19:02 – What changes “snuck” through?
  • 20:30 – New Rental Minimum Standards
  • 21:15 – What are the new ventilation requirements?
  • 25:25 – Unintended consequences of the new electrical standards
  • 27:09 – You have to PAY for the codes to access the minimum standards!
  • 28:26 – Our new name as landlords…
  • 29:00 – How will it change you way you buy property?
  • 30:29 – Will there be a pivot where the vendor needs to make sure these standards are met (as opposed to the buyer)
  • 33:47 – New disclosure requirements
  • 35:11 – What happens to properties that are rented after 29th March?
  • 36:38 – What’s going to happen to the line at VCAT!?!
  • 38:56 – New Urgent Repairs
  • 41:15 – Pest “Infestations”
  • 42:47 – Ben’s story about the tenant and the “ants”
  • 44:15 – Compensation for Sales Inspections
  • 48:36 – Painting!
  • 49:55 – When the website and the legislation don’t match up…
  • 51:51 – The 120 day Rule (Ouch!)
  • 56:50 – Hayley’s Two Worst Changes!
  • 57:17 – What will these changes mean for the industry?
  • 58:35 – The Five Strike Policy!


  • 1:01:11 – Message for landlords
  • 1:07:29 – “Not Happy Jan!!”
  • 1:08:13 – Our Key Message for our Victorian Landlords
  • 1:13:15 – Ben’s Lifestyle Design Update!
  • 1:13:37 – Auction results from the weekend



299 | Sell Everything And Run? Brand New Update From Leah Calnan, President of REIV

If you listened to last week’s episode, you’ll know already that there’s been significant changes happening on the grounds in the real estate industry… particularly here in Victoria with Stage 4 and Stage 3 Restrictions now seriously impacting what we CAN and CAN’T do when it comes to property transactions and inspections across the state…

And since then, we’ve heard from the Commonwealth Bank CEO Matt Comyn on the current health of one of the Big Four and the damage faced to our banking system as they act as “shock absorbers” during the COVID-19 crisis…

.. so the question now is… Is It Time To Sell Everything And Run? And for us living in VIC, Should we flog everything and move to Queensland?!

In today’s eye-opening Q & A, we’re unpacking ALL this, plus – as promised – we have a Brand New Update from Leah Calnan, President of the Real Estate Institute of Victoria (REIV) with further insights into what buyers, sellers, renters, real estate agents & property managers are legally allowed to do in COVID-19 Victoria.

Leah will also be covering what services can still go ahead with up and coming settlements and end of leases… and smart ways to safeguard purchases and sales over the next five weeks.

So. What are we in for?


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The Questions

Question on Finance from Matt Feeley

If I buy an investment property with equity release and create two loan splits (let’s say 100k equity secured against PPR and 400k home loan). If I sell the PPR in the future to upgrade the family home, what happens to the 100k loan that is secured to the PPR? What are the options? Thanks a lot guys!!


Question on Selling Right Now from Cameron Hall

Not really a question, but thought I’d share our experience selling our home recently. Went on market two days after Melbourne went into stage 3, but despite individual inspections and the associated hassle, there was huge interest (25+ groups), and it sold in 5 days, for what we wanted, and a street record     . In a pandemic. No shortage of demand (at least in our area) from what we’ve seen. Hope this helps anyone worried about selling


Question from Maximus Decimus Meridias

This is a buy, rent and sell question and although specifically about the Perth market, I think it is valid for all of Australia. The media reported last night that the Perth median sell price has slipped below Adelaide and is 2nd from the bottom with Darwin sitting below Perth. However, the rental vacancy rate is

$200 less than last month and about half of what it was this time last year! I believe I heard you say in a podcast a few weeks ago that potential sellers are holding onto their properties because they know prices are real low. But has distressed selling pushed the median price down? Or are the media looking at stats at a certain point in time which reflects a bad run of  lower cost properties being sold in distress or otherwise? All these stats don’t match up with what I’m hearing about rental vacancy rates in other parts of Australia either.

And finally, we are looking at rentvesting, yet is it better to look at buying in Perth right now, rather than rentvesting or does that depend on the suburb?


Question from Hugh Gates

Hi guys, currently building a granny flat on the back of my PPOR at the moment which will be leased. My question is will my serviceability for a future  investment loan be increased if I lease the main residence also? The flip side is that the repayments on the house are lower than the equivalent I would pay in rent ie. Repayments $330 a week, rental $450ish. However the rental income I would generate on the house would be equivalent to that of the rent I would be paying. (Balanced out I guess)

Love the show boys and Stiggy, have listened to the lot and have read one of  your books keen to read the next! Thank you for your time and commitment to bettering others futures be it financial or otherwise!

Edit: sorry NSW based not Vic!


Question from Tee Dee

With stimulus being used to prop everything up, is it fair to say that we can expect to see an initial deflation in the market (10-20%), followed by a severe inflationary period as the mass amount of new money finds its way to the bottom of the pyramid when everything opens back up via rents and prices? If we keep our current monetary system the only way to repay this debt is through mass inflation. That tells me to hold my assets,  switch to interest only (despite low interest rates), and pay off my debt using tomorrow’s, devalued dollar. Is this a naive way of thinking? Thanks guys


Question from Jamie Attard

I’m hearing a lot of hype of a tree change from our major cities. Is there data out there to back this up and what regional areas are benefiting from this if any?


Question from Heath Ian Sullivan

Thoughts on Queensland being bombarded with melbournites trying to  escape from the city?


Question from Sonja Mallia

What to do if we have over 200k in offset, and the banks can now use our money if in financial ruins and not pay it back?


One Final Word…

If you’re worried about your finances or if you have no clarity on your cash flow position, we strongly recommend you to organise your finances now. It’s more important than ever to have a clear view, down to the exact cent, on how much you’re spending each month and how much surplus you’ve got. If you don’t know it, then log in to your Money SMARTS Platform here and update the numbers.

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298 | Property In A State of Disaster – Chat with Leah Calnan, President of REIV and Nerida Conisbee, Chief Economist at REA Group

“Property in a state of disaster.” Yep. You heard it here first, folks…

And there’s no doubt we’re literally making property news with this timely, “double header” episode featuring two of the brightest minds in Australian real estate… (and, no, this breaking news is not “hot off the press”, either… we actually interviewed one of today’s guests BEFORE the press even got to them!! 😲)

Here’s the deal…

With Stage 4 restrictions now here in Metropolitan Melbourne and Stage 3 restrictions all across Victoria… the property market HAS been impacted as a result…

So, not only are we getting the update from the National Representative of Victoria, Leah Calnan, President of Real Estate Institute of Victoria about what we CAN and CAN’T do when it comes to property here in VIC, you’re also going to learn how (and if it’s even possible!) to transact property with these harsh restrictions now in place… and what the next six weeks is potentially going to look like for Buyers, Sellers and Renters.

PLUS, for our folks NOT located in or looking to buy in Victoria right now… our longstanding friend and indeed one of Australia’s best property and economic experts Nerida Conisbee, Chief Economist at REA Group, also joins us for a deep dive on what’s currently happening in the individual segments of the Australian property market, including…

It’s a BIG ep… but we promise there’s plenty of new updates and quality gold in here that we simply couldn’t NOT share with you! (Let’s just say there’s A LOT happening!!!)


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Here’s A Glimpse Into What We Cover…

  • Pandemic Brings New Rules For The Victorian Property Market… And They’re Not Great
  • How can you transact real estate in Victoria?
  • What are the unintended consequences of these harsh restrictions?
  • What does Real Estate Institute of Victoria (REIV) think about all this?!
  • How many known cases of COVID-19 have come from the real estate industry?
  • Can you still get a new tenant in with these new laws?
  • What about cleaning? Building and Pest Inspections? Pre and Post Settlement?
  • How is Nerida navigating the outlook of the property market when things are uncertain and constantly changing?
  • The September Cliff versus The September Slope
  • Where are we seeing distressed markets?
  • How many distressed sales are we seeing?
  • What’s likely to occur if the pandemic continues into 2021?
  • What is the Pilot Program and Why has it now been derailed?
  • Are investors buying right now?
  • What’s happening to premium property?
  • What are we seeing in the CBD and how will this continue to play out?
  • What on earth is “Revenge Spending” and how will this play a role in getting us through COVID-19?
  • Are predictions of 20 – 30% drops in the property market still relevant?
  • Around The Grounds in The Australian Property Market


One Final Word…

If you’re worried about your finances or if you have no clarity on your cash flow position, we strongly recommend you to organise your finances now. It’s more important than ever to have a clear view, down to the exact cent, on how much you’re spending each month and how much surplus you’ve got. If you don’t know it, then log in to your Money SMARTS Platform here and update the numbers.

Don’t have an account yet? Create your free access below and we’ll also send you an e-copy of the instruction manual which is also our best-seller book, Make Money Simple Again. Just fill in the form below and we’ll email it to you right away.





283 | Buy & Hold vs Buy & Sell – which strategy works best in WA? – Chat with Damian Collins, President of REIWA

And so our theme of chatting with the Presidents of the property markets across the country continues! 

Here to tell us what’s happening in Bryce’s hometown (Perth 😉and the best strategy a property investor should adopt in WAis Damian Collins, President of REIWA – the Real Estate Institute of Western Australia! 

The last time we checked in with Damian was waaay back in Episode 73… and there’s been more than a few changes in the WA property market between then and now… plus, even more news since COVID-19 came on the scene! 

A bit about today’s guest… Damian has served on the REIWA Council since 2011 and was elected President of the Institute in 2018. He’s been an active investor for over 25 years and is ALSO the Founder and Managing Director of Momentum Wealth   a Perth-based property investment consultancy. As well as all thishes also the Chairman of commercial property funds management business, Mair Property Funds. 

We tackle the big question… Should a Buy & Hold Property Investor actually invest in Western Australia? 

This one is for our WA folks… and those interested in what’s happening on the grounds in the Perth property market 

  • Pre-COVID-19 
  • During COVID-19 
  • Post-COVID-19 


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