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Episode 077 | Right Strategy in the Right Market at the Right Time

What is the possibility of investing in property with the right strategy, in the right market, at the right time? Well, that depends. Now, we know this sounds really vague but in order to determine that, one need to ask if they have the right understanding in the first place? Because it is very dangerous if the perception of a right strategy or a right market is wrong and you go ahead and build a property portfolio based on your assumptions. For example, if Alex believes that capital growth is the right strategy and buying within 5km radius from Melbourne CBD is the right market, then he would be in a very tricky situation because the supply at the moment is quite low (unless he has a very deep pocket).

So in this episode of The Property Couch podcast, Bryce Holdaway and Ben Kingsley focuses on understanding what is considered as “the right market” and why it is important that you take the long view on where the market is going before committing to anything. Bryce and Ben will also be answering Maria’s question on cash flow management and an investor’s mindset. Here’s the question:

“Hi guys

Love the podcast and the book,  well-deserved success with both.

How do you draw the line between good cash flow management and depriving yourself of things you enjoy? My husband and I have always lived within our means and we now have two properties under our belt in Sydney, with plans to buy more. We’re in our thirties. But I’ve found that as we’ve come along the investing journey I’ve become increasingly preoccupied with spending less. I have no issues buying necessities, paying bills, or paying for things that benefit our investing or our health. I don’t blink an eye at spending on insurances, BA fees, etc, because those things are useful and necessary.

However, when contemplating discretionary lifestyle purchases, often costing less than $100 (you know, stuff you don’t need, but want) I spend weeks analysing whether to buy, to the extent that I’m spending too much energy on it. I guess I worry that if I spend $100 here and $100 there, I’ll just eat away at our cash buffers. What are your personal real life experiences with discretionary spending while trying to build a property portfolio? Did you and your family buy your toys and vices freely, or did you find yourself analysing every purchase?

I want to have the best cash flow position possible, but I want to have occasional frivolous luxuries too. I know I need some sort of mindset shift, but what does that shift look like?”

 

Some of the resources mentioned in this podcast:

 

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Episode 73 | Building a property portfolio in a tough market – Chat with Damian Collins

 

It is Special Guest Day and we’ve got Damian Collins from Momentum Wealth with us on our very first Vodcast!

Just a bit of a background on Damian, he is an established property investor, the founder and managing director of Momentum Wealth, a Perth-based property investment and buyers advocacy firm and is also on the board of PIPA which means he is very well qualified to talk about the art of investing in property and building a portfolio.

So for today’s episode, the three of them will be talking about:

  • Damian’s experience as an investor and what motivated him to build his portfolio
  • The mistakes, lessons and investing tips he learned as an investor
  • How is the Perth’s property market doing and where is it on the cycle
  • Was there a sentiment shift considering the recent economic changes
  • How does he conduct his property research when it comes to asset selection
  • What are his principles and investment strategy when it comes to building a property portfolio in a tough market
  • Some of the horror stories that he has seen in his seat

 

PS: We hope you enjoy watching the video and we would really like to hear what you think about it! If you like it, let us know and we will produce this more regularly. 🙂

 

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Live Questions and Answer Chat on Property Investing – June 2016

The Property Couch podcast is all about helping others avoid making bad property investment mistakes and sharing the insiders guide to property investing. That is why on the 29th of June 2016, Bryce and Ben decides to hold a Live Questions and Answers Chat on Property Investing so that we can interact directly with our fellow listeners. Thank you to all of you who have joined in and if you would like to watch a replay of this, here’s a recording on Youtube:

List of questions Answered:

  1. Will Sederino: My question is about claiming depreciation on an existing property that has been renovated. We are about to purchase a property (using Empower Wealth’s Buyer Agents) that has recently been renovated by the previous owner and wonder whether we can claim depreciation on this renovation even though it was not us that completed it. My gut feel is that we would be able to? Is this correct?
  2. Mitch Scholard: G’day fellas, wondering your thoughts on which capital city will see the best capital growth over the next 5 years.
  3. Luke Stirton: Does development and renovation provide the secret to accelerated gains in today’s increasingly harder market to get ahead?
  4. Angela Cerasi: Hi guys, I am new to property investing and am currently in my research phase. Have listened to all your podcasts and enjoyed them immensely! I have 2 questions. (1) If a potential investment property is to have owner occupier appeal, then won’t you be competing with owner/occupiers when it comes to buying? From what I understand this means you could be competing with emotional buyers who could push the price up. I don’t think renovating is for me, so I would be buying a place that would be pretty much ready to be lived in by tenants. I of course want to find an area which is gentrifying, but wouldn’t owner/occupiers who are looking for a great buy also be looking for this too? (2) If a buyers agent takes a fixed fee, how much time would they generally dedicate to finding your property? Do you come to them with the city/suburb in mind or do they come to you with those details based on your personal situation? Do they keep looking for you until a property is successfully purchased? I appreciate that all buyer’s agents would differ but maybe you can give me an idea of how it works?”
  5. Maria Li: Can you do a PAYG withholding variation the first year that you own investment property (based on projected cash flows) or do you have to wait a year so that you can base future withholding variations on the previous year?
  6. Leisa Caines: Hi Bryce & Ben, love the podcast & your book. Hear you talk about finding an investment savvy mortgage broker but where do you find one? I’m in North west area in Sydney
  7. Brad McCreadie: Would you buy now or wait to see what happens to apartment prices in Briz. Looking at a 2 bedroom as owner occupy initially but then to use as investment.
  8. Karl Frank: Hi Guys. What will be the impact to the housing market if Labour win the next election and implement their changes to the Capital Gains Tax as it relates to investment properties?
  9. Mark Rogal: If Labour win the election, negative gearing and CGT changes won’t kick in until mid-2017. In your opinion, what is the most likely scenario for prices of established homes between now and July 2017? Thanks for the great insights! Cheers!
  10. George Kallinikos: I was wondering what is a suitable time frame is to wait it out during a period of experiencing little to no growth. I have owned a one bedroom apartment in a Melbourne blue chip location of Hawthorn since 2008 and it has barely kept up with inflation. This has left me disillusioned during a period where Melbourne overall has seen incredible growth. I understand exit / repurchase costs but also realise that the opportunity cost of this investment has been quite high. What are your thoughts?
  11. Bradden Mitchell: GDay Bryce & Ben. Does an investment grade property have to be over $500K ?
  12. Jack Killalea: If there is a significant price correction in the CBD apartment market over the next 2-3 years, will these apartments become potentially good investments or because they lack scarcity they will always be fundamentally not investment grade?
  13. Geoff Smith: Hey guys just a quick question, how does it work with using parents equity from their homes. How does the loan get structured or would it be used as a line of credit against there property?
  14. Graeme Ash: Hello Couchers, Great Show 🙂 Quick question – with banks only lending 60% for loans, do you think it is better to go for the biggest, blue chip, investment grade, growth asset you can afford using all your super or go for a cheaper property so your 40% does wipe you out and you can start saving for property 2.
  15. Felix Tjandrawibawa: What’s the best way to estimate capital growth for a suburb? Are you guys looking at historical growth (if so – how long do you guys look for?)?
  16. Rachel Hubbard: Hey guys. I’m now in a position to buy my next investment property. However my financial goal is to pay off my ppor in the next 5-10 years. Given that property investment is a long term strategy, do you suggest buying another investment property in an attempt to gain equity and sell in 5-10 years to pay off my ppor? Or given the high costs involved in buying/selling, should I look to invest in other ways to achieve this goal?
  17. Alex Hill: Are all house and land packages dud investments? In 2013 I bought land in North Lakes QLD and built a lowest house. I spent about $50K over median price for the area, trying to maintain some owner-occupier resale appeal. It’s currently cash flow neutral but I’m concerned there will never be any growth, and I’ll now struggle to accumulate a deposit for a second investment property. What are your thoughts?
  18. Amy Hambin: When building an investment property is yield calculated on land and construction costs or the first valuation on completion?
  19. Daniel Stocks: Hi guys, do you often come across clients who’s properties come in at less than purchase price when applying for finance?
  20. Sam Hockey: Hey guys, am I better off looking at an investment property towards the upper end of my lending capacity ($800k) to get into the better areas of Brisbane or looking further out for something around $400k to setup my next investment property purchase sooner? Love the podcast I’ve just finished it for the 2nd time around!!
  21. Richard Bristoe: Hi Bryce and Ben, I just want to ask what are your thoughts on Brexit, and how it will affect the Australian property market in the short and long term?
  22. Mitch Scholard: Would love your thoughts on the Sunshine Coast, I feel like it has great owner occupier appeal but not sure it has the income to keep property prices increasing.
  23. Daniel Stocks: If looking for properties interstate in unfamiliar areas, what advice can you give for narrowing down investment grade suburbs?
  24. Tammy Nguyen: What are your thoughts on the Logan area in Brisbane?
  25. Sam Hockey: How much does a Buyers Agent cost?
  26. Gaz Slater: How long do you wait for a city that’s nearing the bottom of its cycle before buying. Eg Perth.

 

Episode 064 | Case study: mid 30s couple, combined income of $150k p.a, existing PPOR and two IPs

It has been quite some time since our last case study so this time on The Property Couch, Bryce and Ben will be discussing one the case studies that we’ve received from our fellow listeners! Here’s what Tom wrote to us:

 


 

After listening to Episode 56 where you discussed various other case studies I thought I might write in to see if you were interested in discussing our situation. I’ll try and keep it short!

Basically, my partner Kirby (30yo) and I (32yo) are both teachers on a combined income of about $160k. 3 years ago we got the bug to do something with our money but weren’t exactly sure how. Our simple goal is to have choice whether to work or not. If we had no loans to service we imagine a passive income of $80-100k would be more than enough, and any more is a bonus!

We had a PPOR property valued at a tad over 300k with a mortgage of ~200k, limited other expenses and a disciplined approach to spending. Property sounded like a great avenue so we went about increasing our knowledge. Unfortunately our naivety led us to a property investment ‘education’ group where although we have learn a lot we have made what we think are two poor investment decisions. We overpaid for both to fatten the developer’s margins.

Our first was brought using the above equity in our PPOR and was a House and Land duplex in Dakabin, Qld for circa $500k. Although the yield is decent there were many costs that the property investment ‘education’ group failed to mention/understand that we have been left with, and there is little scarcity or owner occupier appeal to make growth a good prospect. We have always had tenants in both sides which has been great. We borrowed 90% on interest only terms.

About 18 months ago we signed another contract, this time on a 4 bed H & L in Doolandella, 18kms out of Brisbane for circa $400k. After a long land settlement this was completed yesterday and will be advertised for rent tomorrow. Looking at about a 4.9% yield. Again, this is on an interest only loan at 90%. Deposit and costs were paid from our savings – I know, huge mistake!

Right after we signed this contract we found your podcasts which have taught us that there are so many fundamental errors in our property selections, and if we had our time again would have purchased existing properties with scarcity and owner occupier appeal.

We have just had our first child and Kirby is now off work. We have a ~$45k buffer in our PPOR offset and somehow are still managing to save, even though Kirby is off work, although receiving maternity leave payments.

We use a credit card to pay for 95% of our spending, and repay at the end of every month to ensure no interest payments.

So, we are still very keen to use property as our investment vehicle and have learned so much in the last year but are now stuck as to our next step. We doubt we would have enough equity to purchase again now and the fact Kirby is off work will severely hamper our serviceability. She will return to work at the start of 2017.
Questions:

  • Do we sell both/one of our current properties? We’d like to keep if possible as I am a firm believer in buy and hold, although will they hamper us moving forward?
  • Where to from here?

Any information from you would be extremely appreciated. I’m sure there are a number of people who have used ‘property spruikers’ such as these to purchase less than ideal investments.


 

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Episode 063 | Q&A – What’s the next step to building a portfolio, size of the portfolio, IP or PPOR and diversifying wealth strategy

It’s Q&A time again! This week on The Property Couch, Bryce Holdaway and Ben Kingsley will be answering the questions below from our fellow listeners. Thanks again for submitting your questions!

  • Next step to building a portfolio question from Derrick: I was listening to your “tips for FHO’s” episode where you advised a gentleman to think about getting a one bedder in a desirable suburb (like Bondi) as his first place. Coincidentally I pretty much did that 4.5 years ago…buying a 1 bedroom unit in Woollahra. So you could say that I am that guy four years later! The only difference is that my apartment wasn’t part of an investment strategy at the time, I just liked the apartment! I am at the stage now that I want to get into property investing but at the same time I’m conscious about finding my second place of residence for my wife and I in about three years…preferably living in a similar area. So I’m trying to tackle two thoughts at once: how do I invest in my long term future while figuring out how to afford my next home? What should someone like myself be thinking? Should I be looking to invest and build more equity for our second place? Should I sit on our current property and save, while looking to use my current place of residency as a future investment property? Or is there another route? Thanks for your advice and thanks again for the show!
  • Size of portfolio question from Jason: Started to listen to podcast recently and love it keep up the good work. I just wanted your guys opinion on the ability to build large portfolios now in this current lending environment. I have heard you guys mention that you only need 4 to 5 properties to have a passive income and live into retirement but what if you want to have larger portfolio say of 10 or 20 properties is this achievable for people on average incomes like previously? Or has the APRA changes stopped this from occurring in the future?
  • Question on leverage from James: I’m 27 and looking to make a good go at property investing. I have recently sold my first investment property and now have a lot of capital from the sale. My investment now is a new property being finished in 12 months . My question is after selling down the 1st investment property, am I better off paying for the new one in full (using the rental income to service another investment property afterwards), or should I purchase a few more properties while i have a large sum off money and spreading the cash around to gain more houses for a larger passive income later down the line. Bearing in mind my age and goals. Thanks guys! and keep up the great work.
  • IP or PPOR question from Karla: Hey guys. I love the podcast and the sign offs too Ben! My question is, if you are renting and have the ability to purchase a property. Is it better to buy an investment property or a principle place of residence (IP or PPOR) first? Which would set you up better for the next step? It feels like a bit of “chicken or the egg”. I’d love to know hour thoughts! Keep up the good work and I can’t wait for footy season to hear your commentary!
  • Case study question from Deanna:  I am 22 yrs old and am convinced of the benefits of property as along term wealth building strategy, for now I am trying to develop as much understanding as I can. My questions are as follows:
    • Do you recommend that the first property that someone buys is for PPOR or can it sometimes be an IP? For example this may be relevant for young people currently living in Sydney who are renting but would also looking to be a border-less investor. In what/ if any scenarios do you think this could be a smart plan?
    • What is your opinion of young people utilising the first home buyers grant. I understand that in majority of discussion that you advocate for established buildings rather than new dwellings, however when I read a case study you wrote for Money magazine the 20 something year old strategy included using the first home buyers grant for their first property (PPR).
    • This is a broad question and may potentially be outside you scope of practice but I was wondering what your opinion was in diversifying wealth building strategies. For example do you observe in your successful clients that they are involved in property investment only or do they often also include other investments such as a share portfolio to their strategy.

 

References:

  • Money magazine – Special Real Estate Edition – Buy here
  • ABC News article: Who uses negative gearing in Australia? – Read here
  • RP Data: Weekly rents have continued to fall over the past year – Read here
  • 2GB Ross Greenwood chat with Roger Montgomery – Listen here
  • Qantas in-flight radio: Alan Kohler chat with Bryce Holdaway – Listen Here

 

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