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488 | Buying Regional vs. City: Does It Stack Up?

 

When investing in property, choosing WHERE to invest often keeps folks up at night. That’s why, in today’s Q&A Day, we are answering questions that speak to this very issue. 

Here’s what we’re unpacking:  

Why choose to invest regional over city? (Tune in to 1:02:10 to hear Ben poise a riddle to the community. Oh, and send us your replies through our SpeakPipe! 😉)  

From the multi-layered factors to consider BEFORE buying in the country to whether Gary (today’s question asker) has made the right decision to invest in Ballarat, we’re uncovering the one question that investing regional boils down to.   

Plus, we answer what elements make a town a mining town, the biggest risks associated with investing in these “boom and bust” areas, and our case for why we avoid investing in Canberra!  

It’s an episode loaded with nuggets of wisdom, tune in now folks! 😊 

 

P.S. As market conditions change, we’ve been noticing some concerning ads popping up, which is why we’re sitting down to unpack: What does modern-day spruiking look like?  

 

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    • 256 | From Gold Mine To Fool’s Gold: How This Property Investor Nearly Lost It All During The WA Mining Boom! – Chat with Rick Hockey 
    • 418 | The Hidden Forces Driving Property Values 
    • 474 | From Childhood Stocks to City Shocks: How He Escaped Bad Investing Advice! – Chat with Bailey 
    • 484 | Cracking the Code: Mastering the 60% Land to Asset Ratio 
  • Graphs from Ben’s “What’s Making Property News”:  

Questions We Answer…

Q1) Investment Property in Canberra from Jenna  

“Love the show. I have listened to every episode. A bit of a fan. I’ve done your property plan through EW. I have used to mortgage broking services, your BA services and your accounting services. 

Thank you for all the information and services that you provide. 

I have two questions today and it is specifically related to my situation, but I think a few of your listeners we’ll have similar questions. 

To begin with the background, my partner and I had our PPOR currently sitting at around 490,000 on our mortgage remaining 300,000 in equity.  That 490 includes a $100,000 equity release, which we used to buy and investment property in the South Brisbane.  

My biggest question is based around the fact that our PPOR is located in Canberra. I’ve listened to you guys for several years and specifically on your more recent podcasts. 

You reiterate that you despise having an investment property in Canberra. 

Our PPOR is not our forever home, but we would be happy here for another four or five years. Our original plan was to transition our PPOR into an IP and I guess my question is, would you still recommend this? 

For more context, our mortgage is currently about $2,400 a month and being very concerned if we could get up to $2,500 even $3,500 a month in rent understanding that there’s a complication for land tax.  

My question is what would you do with this house sell? or turn it into investment property? 

My second question as I believe I know what your answer will be to the first question is what happens to the equity release against our current PPOR if we sell? 

Will we need to pay this off? Or can we leave it as is as the interest is tax deductible? 

Thanks guys.  Love your work.”  

 

Q2) What is considered a mining town? from Jenny 

“Hi Ben and Bryce, Jenny here. 

Thank you for the invaluable content over the years. Without the education provided in your poddies, we would never have embarked on our property investment journey. 

I have a few questions regarding mining towns, which I believe the Community can benefit from. 

We do not invest in mining towns as two wise men have informed us over the years, but which towns are considered mining towns and how do you work this out? 

Is it just the suburb where the mining actually takes place? Or does it extend to surrounding suburbs 

Would you look to ABS data to see the percentage level of residents who are employed in the mining industry? 

And if so, would say anything over 5% of the population working in the mining sector, then make that Suburb a mining town. The wisdom on this will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks boys.”  

 

Q3) Regional Properties from Gary   

“Hi Bryce and Ben, 

My name is Gary I live in Spotswood, West of Melbourne. I’ve just got a question I’d like to ask you about regional properties.  

Two years ago, I went through our financial planner and bought his agent and got a three-bedroom house in Ballarat North just outside Melbourne. And my question was that there’s been a lot of talk regarding regional properties versus sort of properties near the CBD. 

Now, I just wanted to get your thoughts on what you class as a good regional property because especially in Victoria, we have regional areas such as Geelong, Ballarat, and Bendigo a bit and they’re not exactly what I call small, they have a lot of amenities, a lot of industry, and job creation out there.

But I just find that when you read information quite vague about regional properties, they say they don’t do as well as in the city and they obviously at the moment they’re not increased as much as they’re near the inner city. 

But I’m just interested to see your thoughts and maybe have a bit of a deeper look or a deeper dive into the regional market as we like. 

I think we’d like to focus on the inner cities and central CBD’s in Melbourne and Sydney. 

It’ll be good to hear your thoughts on that. 

Thank you.”  

 

Timestamps

  • 0:00 – Buying Regional vs. City: Does It Stack Up? 
  • 1:43 – Ben’s stopped sweating 😉  
  • 3:12 – Warning: THIS is what Modern Day Spruiking looks like   
  • 7:04 – Where modern spruiking happens & why it’s so successful 🙁  
  • 10:18 – What kind of investor are you?  
  • 15:27 – From the Coalface: 8 of 12 tenants moving because landlords are selling up   
  • 18:25 – Mindset Minute: “There is never anything to do, but always action to take.” 
  • 22:36 – As a property investor, what practical action can you take?  
  • 24:13 – Q1) Investment Property in Canberra  
  • 26:29 – Hold or move into another market?   
  • 30:50 – The science behind NOT investing in Canberra  
  • 34:25 – Beware of regulatory risks: How holding costs are disincentivising investors  
  • 37:41 –  If you’ve built a portfolio in Canberra, let us know how you’ve done it!  
  • 38:36 – How is my loan transferred if I sell the property?  
  • 40:55 – The Stand-Alone Scenario 
  • 45:42 – Q2) What is considered a mining town? 
  • 46:43 – The risk with mining towns  
  • 51:10 – Is Perth a mining town?  
  • 53:04 – Why Perth is heading towards a golden era  
  • 58:10 Q3) Regional Properties 
  • 59:40 –  Not all regional properties are created equal 
  • 1:00:57 – We need to acknowledge this for the next generation of investors  
  • 1:02:10 “Will regional land grow higher than the city?” 
  • 1:06:34 –  Ben and Bryce have both bought regional!  
  • 1:09:45 – Historically, regional has been great for yield 
  • 1:10:29 – It comes down to the M___ of S____  
  • 1:12:48 –  Consider these factors when buying regional!  

And… 

  • 1:17:14 – Lifehack: Make Decisions like Jeff Bezos 
  • 1:22:53WMPN: House Price Movements across Australia   

 

377 | Property Market Outlook 2022 – Chat with Nerida Conisbee

It’s that time of year when everyone is interested in where the property market is going… And so are we!

That is why we’ve gone and locked in a chat with Australia’s most quoted property commentator, Nerida Conisbee, a great friend to the show as well as Chief Economist at Ray White!

Before we spill all the great things on Nerida’s 2022 Outlook, we want to take a moment and thank all our Summer Series Guests!

It was an honour and privilege to have all of them on the show and we cannot thank them enough for their honesty and transparency on their transformation journey. And if you’ve been equally inspired by their stories, we want you to take action this year and get in touch with us when the time comes for the next Summer Series!

Now folks, back to today’s episode…

If you’ve been listening to us for some time, you would know that Nerida is no stranger to the show. With an innate ability to explain complex economic (and sometimes political) scenarios in a simple and easy to digest manner, Nerida will be reviewing the year just gone.

Of course, that’s not all! (This episode is called 2022 Property Market Outlook after all!)

We’ll be unpacking some of the expected market movement this year, interest rate hikes, affordability and heaps more!

 

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Here’s what we cover…

  • 3:30 – Do you need help with setting up/reviewing your Money SMARTS?
  • 6:30 – Here’s your New Year Resolution from us 😉
  • 7:08 – We’ve got a present for our listener called “Mumof5grownups” who left us a review on iTunes! If that’s you, reach out to us right now at [email protected].
  • 8:08 – Wanna get free access to our Start & Build Course (RRP: $497)?
  • 8:48 – Mindset Minute: Why are the bad days more important than the good days?
  • 10:30 – Meet Nerida Conisbee, our  long-time friend and Chief Economist at Ray White
  • 12:45 – What did the government fail to do but the pandemic didn’t?
  • 14:35 – THIS market was incredibly HOT in 2021… Will it continue in 2022?
  • 17:01 – Which market will be affected by the reopening of international borders?
  • 18:50 – Will the disparity between the house and unit market increase?
  • 21:12 – Is this the Golden Decade for Brisbane?
  • 23:45 – The Affordability Debate and our upcoming Federal Election
  • 26:40 – The rise of the holiday homes!
  • 30:37 – Initiatives to increase supply and improve affordability
  • 32:30 – What can we learn from Singapore’s model on housing supply?
  • 35:15 – The Housing Affordability Inquiry and its challenges
  • 39:50 – Interest rates in 2022! What is the RBA really targeting?
  • 42:40 – Folks, are you ready for a rate hike???
  • 45:38 – The 4th most expensive city in Australia!! Is it sustainable?
  • 50:55 – Will we continue to see a double-digit price growth this year?
  • 53:13 – What will regional markets look like post-pandemic?
  • 56:23 – How are listings looking like in the coming months?

And

  • 59:35 – Renovation tips from Bryce!
  • 1:01:35 – RENT THEFT from the Government?! (#Impossible)

 

 

 

363 | Exodus to the Regions – Will this Trend Reverse? – Chat with Dr Nicola Powell

This data is hot off the press folks!! 🔥🔥🔥

It’s no secret that property prices have grown quite a bit lately, but recent data is showing that we’re breaking records!

Here’s a snippet from Domain’s media release just a week ago:

September Quarter 2021 House Price Report shows Australian house prices experiencing a historical rate of growth at 21.9%, the fastest annual rate of growth on record with median house prices at almost $1 million nationally.

But…what does this mean for both sellers and buyers? Is this likely to stay or are we going to see a crash in the new year? Is this growth even sustainable with our current economy?!

AND…

Will the Regional Exodus Backflip?!!

There are heaps of moving parts here and we know it can get a little overwhelming…

So we’ve outsourced and brought in an expert to help us out.

And yes, we’ve been teasing you about her for the past few weeks so bring on the drum roll please…

🥁🥁🥁

Joining us on the show today is none other than Dr Nicola Powell, Chief of Research & Economics for Domain and one of Australia’s leading property market experts!

With more than 15 years’ research experience that spans academic, government and private sector, Nicola is the leading force behind Domain’s regular data reports that keep the Australian public up to date on what’s happening in the market.

Safe to say that we’re in good hands folks.

Tune in to find out more!

 

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Here’s What We Cover…

  • 1:57 – Mindset minute: It’s better to hang out with people _______ than you, pick out associates whose __________ is better than yours and you’ll _____________.
  • 3:09 – Meet our first-time special guest, Dr Nicola Powell!!
  • 4:00 – How did a science doctorate degree morph into a career in economics?!
  • 5:58 – How she translate hard cold data into behavioural logic and patterns
  • 8:33 – Nicola’s Money Story and what she’s telling her kids now?
  • 11:50 – How did her conservative upbringing shape her money management habits?
  • 13:38 – Where are we RIGHT NOW in our Property Cycle?
  • 14:42 – GROWING AT $1,200 A DAY?!
  • 15:00 – Is this record growth rate expected to continue?
  • 15:46 – Is there any good news from the September Quarter Housing Data?
  • 18:37 – Sydneysiders: Forever Renting or Cross the Borders
  • 20:54 – What has the pandemic accelerated for Sydneysiders?
  • 22:57 – The shift to a different property type…
  • 27:13 – How did the Most Lock-downed City still have a Record Price Growth Rate?!
  • 28:54 – Will the Regional Exodus Backflip?!
  • 30:21 – The biggest social experiment that has proven one key thing…
  • 31:15 – What’s the new buzzword of the pandemic?
  • 32:07 – A little nugget on Price Growth trend!
  • 33:40 – An Aging Population and Its Impact on Supply
  • 36:00 – Areas where they’ll be a risk of a reversal in property price…
  • 39:00 – Is APRA’s Macroprudential changes necessary to influence Demand?
  • 40:53 – When will interest rates start to rise?
  • 42:00 – Which of these two events will trigger the interest rate hike?
  • 43:45 – (HOT) Markets around Australia with still rooms for growth!!
  • 46:08 – Household size and misallocation of housing stocks in Australia…
  • 47:00 – What needs to be disrupted to improve affordability?
  • 48:41 – The Stamp Duty Debate: Lump sum or Annual Repayment?
  • 50:17 – Surprising Find from Domain’s Submission on Housing Affordability…
  • 52:00 – Residential property as an investment class to store family wealth – Yay or Nay?

And of course…

  • 56:37 – A camping trailer life hack that can potentially save your relationship! 😉
  • 59:09  – Ben’s quick update on RBA’s view on their Bond Program

 

 

357 | How To Master Relationships With Real Estate Agents – Chat with Todd Sloan

Have you ever wondered what to say to a real estate agent to INCREASE your likelihood of being the winning buyer?

If you want to know how to get a real estate agent on your side and navigate the delicate dance between buyer and seller, then this is an episode you don’t wanna miss, folks!

Today we are interviewing Todd Sloan, an award-winning real estate sales agent and professional renovator who has been involved in more transactions every month than what most folks see in a life time. He is the host of Pizza & Property podcast, the author of Australia’s Home Buying Guide – How to buy a property faster and for less.

And Todd is about to reveal how you can master relationships with a real estate agent so you are front of mind (without giving away all your cards) and much more likely to secure the property!

You’ll get plenty of practical tips like What to say and What NEVER to say and, ultimately, an insider framework to get a return on relationship and seal the deal.

Plus, Todd also has a unique and useful perspective on selling investment properties and renovating them for profit, which could be up your alley if you’re interested in manufacturing equity and active investing.

So, are you in?

Listen now to get the gold on how to master your relationships with real estate agents!

 

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Here’s What We Cover…

  • 00:41 – The last weekend in September…
  • 02:42 – New PICA Webinar Announced!
  • 03:52 – Do you agree with this Mindset Minute?!
  • 05:45 – Meet Todd…
  • 08:10 – Learning To Save vs Learning To Invest
  • 09:34 – The Big Inhibitors of Investing in Property
  • 10:08 – Todd’s first investment property….
  • 10:30 – What made him realise it wasn’t the best investment?
  • 11:38 – The Accident That Changed Everything!
  • 12:50 – But then… The BIG Turning Point!
  • 13:40 – The $62,000 House…
  • 14:46 – The First Renovation Project
  • 16:32 – Investing in regional at a much lower price point
  • 21:20 – How to safeguard yourself from “What if I don’t know what I’m doing?!”
  • 23:18 – The pivot to being a real estate agent!
  • 24:55 – WHY should investors care about building relationships with real estate agents?
  • 27:09 – What buyers need to do in a hot seller’s market!
  • 28:37 – What’s a real estate agent always looking for?
  • 29:43 – Always Remember THIS!!!!!!!!
  • 30:05 – The best practical tip to master a relationship!
  • 31:30 – Why Buying Property Is NOT A Ride….
  • 32:34 – How real estate agents get paid
  • 33:18 – Make It Easy To Be ___!
  • 34:05 – HOW can you quickly build genuine rapport?!
  • 38:38 – What should you say to a real estate agent?
  • 40:15 – HOT TIP: How can you show your interest WITHOUT giving away all your cards!?!
  • 43:15 – What to do if you’re dealing with a volume agent…
  • 47:17 – Find The __ ___!!!
  • 48:28 – Renovation tips from Todd!
  • 50:13 – Should you be a borderless investor
  • 55:00 – The four-letter F word!
  • 56:04 – Life Hack: What to do with your bonus!

And…

  • 59:45 – WMPN: The transactional numbers!

 

 

355 | Zero Debt & $2,000 A Week In The Bank: HOW?!

How can property investors reach zero debt AND still hit a four-figure passive income each week?
And what do we mean when we say “retire” the debt, anyway? What does this look like and, importantly, WHEN should you start this process?

Folks, in today’s special Q&A episode we’re circling back to a few basic principles and fleshing out some confusion when it comes to property investing. This includes clearing air (and tidying up our language!) when it comes to being informed of the step-by-step investing process.

For one – you’ve no doubt heard us talk about achieving $2,000 in passive income… well, WHERE exactly does this money come from? Is it just your rental income?

As part of this we’ll also be covering “Failure to Launch” principles and “Investment Remorse” – the latter, which may actually be a more common feeling than you think! So what should you consider if you find yourself second guessing your asset selection?

PLUS, because we’re officially in Spring – this episode comes with a WARNING about this year’s “Spring Selling Season”… ‘cos there’s a critical shift taking place ALL home buyers need to be aware of.

Suss the exact questions we answer below – or, better yet, simply hit play and get the gold now 😊

 

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The Questions We Answer

Question from Stevo on “Post Purchase Restlessness”
Hi guys 12 months after purchasing an investment property, I’m starting to get this feeling that it might not of been a great purchase and also restlessness about wanting to “go again” and am worried the growth might not be quick enough compared to capital cities. I say that based on an old episode where you mentioned something about the limitations or a price ceiling in certain areas based on the demographics.

Obviously being a regional property, which doesn’t have the same wage potential as capital cities, am I exposed to the idea that the growth has happened and it won’t come again?
The property is available via this link. It’s shown growth over the past 20 years in capital and rental return.

For reference the idea of “inner city” living (albeit in Mildura) has exploded recently and is the driver of the growth over the past five years. The council and state govt have invested to upgrade the riverfront (very close to the CBD) and has completed stage one. Stage two has started to attract funding and small upgrades/extensions have started. Data suggest Mildura will continue to grow in population albeit slower than Geelong and Bendigo for example, however, it is still positive growth compared to other regional towns this distance from capital cities (which are often stagnate or negative). Major industries – agriculture and tourism, health, Govt. Sorry for the long-winded question and info.

Also, is this a normal feeling people get (delayed remorse)?

 

Question from Ebony on “When is the best time to sell your investments?
Hello, I have a question around when is the best time to sell your investments? My husband and I are mid 30s and have two investment properties. Right now, in our town the property market is a sellers’ market and prices are crazy. Our accountant has recommended that we should seek advice from a financial advisor and possibly sell both investments because they are positively geared and that we would be better off building a new home as an investment or investing elsewhere. I am really unsure about this because I think that we already have 2 great investments, and we would be potentially paying more down the track for land should the market stay the same. However, we have had one property for 2 years and the other for 1 year and could look at earning $100K off the sale of each investment. I guess it’s hard to know if the market will stay at these prices or crash when interest rates rise. Really after some advice from someone who is knowledgeable about property investments. Thank you.

 

Question from Paul on Retiring Debt
Can you elaborate on what you mean when you talk about retiring your debt? I’m confused by what you mean by this.

 

Question from Chris on “$2,000 per week in passive income”
Hi Ben and Bryce, Love your work. 👍 I’m not sure if you’ve mentioned it before, and you probably have, but I would like to know where the $2,000 a week comes from? Is it pure rental income (taxed) above expenses for the portfolio or is it accessing equity against capital growth (is this now defunct with new lending criteria?) or is it a combination of both? Thanks in advance. This is a major thought blocking me from moving forward. 👍

 

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